I feel like I’m down the rabbit hole and I’ll never get out.
About an hour ago, I tweeted Charles Johnson’s excellent post about Ron Paul’s direct ties to white supremacists. The post is full of facts and links and stuff.
Immediately (of course) several Ronulans popped up in my twitter stream to sing some variation of “That’s a lie! Ron Paul isn’t racist!” in B-flat major.
One person in particular went above and beyond. Said person was so kind as to tweet a link to a website called “Above the Secrets.” As soon as I clicked the link, I spewed water onto my computer monitor***:
I just — I can’t with these Ronulans. They’re not right in the head!
The funniest part? The title of the post! It says “Black Man.” THE NAME OF THE DUDE IS RIGHT THERE. IT’S JAMES WILLIAMS.
Somebody call me a medic. I’m dying of laughter.
*** I lied. It was whiskey.
Ronulans are stupid people. ABL, I wouldn’t even bother.
I would like to disagree my good sir.
Care to have discourse about the topic?
Well, hell, I could’ve told you that. They’ve been denying it for years and they’re not going to let those pesky facts stand in their way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2d2SzRZvsQ
It’s funny that you never ONCE showed this video that I tweeted to you, but yet, you RT everything else that you seem to find “racist”? You do realize, that by having a blog like this, especialy with the name AngryBlackLady, you are just giving more strength to racism? You do realize that the fact you support Obama, soley because he is “black”, that makes you racist? You do realize that just because I tweeted a video, that had “Black Man…” (without even realizing it, Ron Paul didn’t even make that video, nor did the PAC that made it title it that, it was the website), with you getting angry about that, BUT yet having the name angryBLACKlady, makes you look racist? You do realize anyone who get’s on the website, and ENJOYS reading this, soley because they feel like they have the authority to call anyone racist, based on misinformed facts and bullshit ‘research’, makes them racist? Just because I don’t agree with Obama, doesn’t mean I’m racist. I was for him in 08′, strongly for him. The fact that he has NOT lived up to ANYTHING he said he would, show’s he’s not worthy of keeping the job. The fact that the…as you would say “black” PEOPLE (since they are people, and NOT the name of the color of their skin), in my family would think you’re the one being racist, just show’s how you truly are. I don’t see color, I don’t see religion, I don’t see income, I see the character of the person, and you, have poor character. Until you start blogging fairly, with proper facts, no one should ever take you seriously.
I believe two other things Ronulans will never master are paragraph breaks and responding the the actual point of an argument.
Just for example, Morgan Freeman certainly has a right to find Black History Month ridiculous. But whatever does that have to do with Ron Paul’s documented associations with white supremacists?
It’s actually funny, her link was that “Anonymous” you know, the ‘hacking’ group, did this. Anon. is one of the BIGGEST RP supporters, full of people from ALL over. So whatever she found, was fake. Do you even know where Anon. started from? Of course not. They started being Anonymous to each other, and still remain Anonymous to each other. Which means they have no idea what each other look like, where they are from, or their race.
I do know paragraph breaks, I just don’t care since I was on a rant? The fact that you think he had associations with White Supremacists, it hilarious. You must do research on blogs like these. Blogs aren’t meant for research, they are opinion based. Just like her’s, she’s hateful towards anyone she thinks disagrees with her, or has PROOF that her “info” may be wrong.
What I have stated above is Fact, not opinion. You can not like Ron Paul, that’s none of my business, but if you aren’t going to like him, have an actual reason and information to back it up. Don’t just spout hate and opinion based information you found on twitter or a blog.
Another lie from the Clan of Paul.
Anonymous reads the Ron Paul Newsletters on the 5th of November
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPIon6g6b1Q
i find it hilarious at this point. i really do.
Ignorant people usually do. Rather than trying to discuss their views and give facts, they just reply with a “hahahaha RT” or nothing more than saying how funny and crazy the other person…although you have no information to prove all of my points and facts are false? Instead, you try to imply that I’m a ‘PaulBot’, or my favorite, a ‘diluted youth’. While you sit there, on your blog, with your “fans”, and do nothing more than nitpick at things you think that would cause a big stir, without actually do much research yourself. I wonder how often you use the Google search engine to find what you’re looking for? I bet you type things in like “…Ron Paul racist”, and of course you find the things that will make your ‘writing’ more interesting to your ignorant audience, of course favoring your personal view, rather than the truth.
as i said to you on twitter, your concept of racism is so facile that it is not worth serious discussion. so please do rage on if you wish. i will continue to laugh at you.
cheers!
Anything new?
(Checks.)
Nope, nothing new.
There’s nothing to discuss. When your opponent in an argument is winning the argument for you with his own words, you just sit back and smile and let him keep fucking talking.
That makes no sense. At all.
Usually, when someone is trying to debate something, especially politics, they try to bring information into the discussion. No one has tried that, they just say “Puppet”, “Paulbot”, “You sound like you’re older than 18″.
I’m just not use to…”winning”…so easily I guess.
Well, to ignore the fact that Ron Paul appealed to racist to get rich and think his “get the government out” of everything solution takes a lot of faith and delusion
Really, sound like you’re older than 18? I’d have guessed 14 or 15, judging from the silliness of your argumentation and your execrable use of English.
Well, be sure and load up on the remedial classes when you enroll in community college.
Deluded! I’ve been trying to figure out what the heck a ‘diluted youth’ is. DELUDED!!
OK, I feel better for having figured that out.
Error was expecting literacy from a paulian.
take your meds, sweetie.
black people are the real racists. you’ve got me dead to rights.
/snark
Okay, on Twitter your avi and bio are of an 18-year-old girl from Kentucky who is engaged to be married, but honestly, your comments are more like a sock account backed by a pervy 50-something stepdad with a gun fetish.
Yeah, since you know me and can decipher from when I’m joking and being serious. Thanks for keeping track of me though.
LOL who needs to keep track of you when you stalk ppl who criticize Ron Paul. See, Joe, your Paulbot calling card is the insane inability to let it go, and your comments here and on twitter only confirm that. May I suggest zoloft? It might be of some help.
Oh my gosh, I’m not even bothering with you anymore. I didn’t track these people down, someone retweeted her ignorance into my feed. I think you doing some research may do some help to the citizens of America.
LOL hon do you know what research means? I don’t think you do. It doesn’t mean a bong hit.
I don’t do any sort of drug. Thanks for trying to stereotype me in the rest of the youth population though.
And the puppet continues to dance.
How am I a puppet, if I agree with what he stands for?
Where did you even get that out of me saying, I don’t do drugs?
Should I start doing drugs or something? Should I be a fucking 30 year old man to be taken seriously. I understand, that it must be hard to be taken down by someone, much younger than you, but it wouldn’t be such an issue, if you actually just looked shit up before posting. You’d be less embarrassed, I have linked so many people to this site, and they think it’s hilarious.
Two of them are actually “Paultards”, thank you ;)
The rest don’t even bother voting, and that’s their choice.
Want to know what’s hilarious? How I can say a simple, nebulous thing and it sets you off on Greenwaldian rants. You don’t have his Koch brothers funding, though.
Oh, please. Don’t bring that “black people voted for Barack Obama because he is black” BS here. I’ve voted for white presidents since 1972 and for the same reasons I voted for Mr. Obama–I thought each was the best candidate for the job. You’re a prime example of why most of us don’t vote for republicans and/or libertarians–you continue to insult our intelligence, and it chaps your azz that we’re smart enough not to vote for your politicians. We’re no fools. This is a major problem that many on the right have with President Obama. You refuse to acknowledge his intelligence and what he’s accomplished since he’s been in office, and you mask it by saying you simply don’t like his “policies,” policies that were once okay with your party. This is a lie, a rancid lie. His policies benefit your azzez, too. The fact that you keep saying this is a blinking neon sign that screams racism. Take the mote out of your own eye before attempting to remove it from the eye of others. Ron Paul knew about the racist newsletters and approved each of them. This is fact, not fiction, and nothing you can do/say changes a d@mn thing.
I’m not republican. I’m actually far from what they call republican now.
I’ve actually never been called a republican before. lmfao.
I’ve been called a Lib-tard/Democratic Socialist Asshole ect. Never anything related to the Rep. party. I’ve been called many things for actually being for Obama in 08′. I actually find it so funny, I have to screen shot this. No one’s actually going to believe someone called me a Republican. LOL
Actually, he had no control of it after it was published, so what else could he do? He just apologized and took responsibility. What other steps should he have taken? He did all he could do. He said “I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention for what was written under my name.” No one has even heard him say ANYTHING even semi-racist. If this newsletter was so important, and truly racist, on Ron’s part…why wasn’t it brought up in the 80′s and 90′s, but only during his Pres. running?
Enjoy having Obama for another 4 years, and his lying words and broken promises.
You do realize that you are a fucking bore, right?
Only because I’m not telling you want you want to hear.
Look, I know that snarking on spelling is low and I’m sure many people have already responded, but I’ve had a long day of grading papers and just can’t take the egregious errors right now. So please, do us all a favor and get it right: it’s “solely.”
“Soley” means it would be associated with the bottom of your shoe. (Which, in talking about All Things Ron Paul, might actually be correct. So never mind!)
(Psst: Anonymous has the goods on Ron Paul’s direct association with Neo-Nazi’s: http://pirasec.com/)
If YOU support this, then YOUR character is in question:
(One more time, ABL – sorry, had to do it.)
Who Is Ron Paul?
In His Own Words…
*Anonymous Hacks White Supremacist Site, Finds Direct Links to Ron Paul – Ron Paul’s connections to Neo-Nazis revealed:
“The documents show numerous connections between Republican candidate Ron Paul and these racist Neanderthals; they’re heavily involved in campaigning for Paul, and according to the messages, have held regular meetings with Ron Paul himself: Ron Paul, the American Third Position Party and Stormfront.
Also revealed: Ron Paul has held meetings with A3P and Nick Griffin, leader of the British National Party — the notorious UK fascist group with neo-Nazi roots.”
Anonymous Statement: http://pirasec.com/
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39862_Anonymous_Hacks_White_Supremacist_Site_Finds_Direct_Links_to_Ron_Paul
[VIDEO] Ron Paul promises “big cuts” in new ad:
“Paul has vowed to cut $1 trillion from the budget in the first year if he were elected president by ending the U.S. Departments of Commerce, Education, Energy, Housing and Urban Development (HUD), and Interior.
The Environmental Protection Agency, Food and Drug Administration and Department of Defense would also see deep cuts under his budget plan.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/05/ron-paul-promises-big-cuts-in-new-ad/
[VIDEO] Ron Paul: End Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid:
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/04/ron-paul-end-medicare-social-security-and-medicaid/
[VIDEO] Ron Paul Calls For Federal Public Lands To Be ‘Sold Off To Private Owners’:
http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/10/21/349536/ron-paul-public-lands/
[VIDEO] Ron Paul plans to ‘eventually’ end all federal student aid:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/23/ron-paul-plans-to-eventually-end-all-federal-student-aid/
[VIDEO] Ron Paul Rejects Evolution:
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2011/08/ron_paul_rejects_evolution_too.php#more
[VIDEO] Ron Paul’s powerful pro-life ad:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/14/video-ron-pauls-powerful-pro-life-reminder/
Ron Paul: No Church/State Separation:
http://atheism.about.com/b/2007/08/06/authoritarian-or-libertarian-ron-paul-on-churchstate-separation-secularism.htm
[VIDEO] Ron Paul in a nutshell:
“ThinkProgress compiled video of just a few of Paul’s many claims that basic laws and essential programs violate the Constitution. A short list includes Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the National Labor Relations Board, the Federal Reserve, income taxes, and even the dollar bill.”
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/20/392728/paul-everything-is-unconstitutional/
[VIDEO] CNN: Ron Paul’s Racist Newsletter – Paul Walks on CNN Interview
“Rep. Ron Paul’s (R-TX) emergence as the front-runner in the Iowa GOP primary is bringing new scrutiny on Paul’s newsletters from the 1980s and 1990s. The newsletters, published under his name, included content claiming that African-Americans are trying to give white people HIV, suggested that Washington, DC is “anti-white and proud of it,” provided instructions on how to murder African-Americans, and warned of “malicious gay(s)” who spread HIV.”
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/22/394625/ron-paul-storms-interview-racist/
5 Reasons Progressives Should Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution — ‘Cuddly’ Libertarian Has Some Very Dark Politics
“He’s anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-senior-citizen, anti-equality and anti-education, and that’s just the start.”
http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/152192/5_reasons_progressives_should_treat_ron_paul_with_extreme_caution_–_%27cuddly%27_libertarian_has_some_very_dark_politics?page=entire
Ron Paul [Election 2012] Hires Christian Right Political Activist with American Family Association for Church Outreach:
[Quote] Paul has brought several Christian conservatives onto his campaign in an ambitious effort to reach believers for his cause. Michael Heath, the campaign’s Iowa director, previously worked for a New England-based group called the Christian Civic League of Maine that fought against adding sexual orientation to the state’s Human Rights Act.
The national campaign has tasked Heath with leading church outreach in Iowa, where for months he has met with pastors and Christian congregations. “That’s the biggest part of what I’m doing as state director,” Heath told Yahoo News after a day of knocking on church doors with campaign literature. “Going to churches with a message in support of Dr. Paul’s campaign that is very much faith-based and is also rooted in his commitment to a constitutionally defined limited federal government.” [Unquote]
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/mike-heath-resurfaces-ron-paul-iowa
[VIDEO] Ron Paul’s Full Speech at the Christian Fundamentalist Values Voter Summit 2011
Paul won the straw poll. Note the organizers listed on the screen behind him: Liberty Council, American Family Association, Family Research Council, American Values, Liberty University – the entire Christian Reconstructionist crew all gathered together under one roof.
Listen to ALL of it. Paul says that government has no place in education and that the responsibility for educating children should fall solely to the family. Reiterates elimination of the Dept. of Education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnj-5z9NJoY
Paul Rosenberg: Exposing Religious Fundamentalism in the US [Ron Paul included]
http://spencerwatch.com/2011/09/07/paul-rosenberg-exposing-religious-fundamentalism-in-the-us/
Saint Paul: Inside Ron Paul’s effort to convince conservative Christians that he’s their man [Paul tells Yahoo his policy ideas are rooted in scripture – see former Paul staffer Gary North’s “10,000 page exposition on Biblical Capitalism”]
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/saint-paul-inside-ron-paul-effort-convince-christian-150637605.html
Gary North’s “Biblical Capitalism” [Christian Reconstruction]
http://www.garynorth.com/public/department57.cfm
Rachel Tabachnick on Gary North, Christian Reconstruction, and the Religious Right’s War on Progressive Economic Policy
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/2/1/132159/0192
Like Father Like Son, Rand Paul Opposes Civil Rights Act and Americans with Disabilities Act:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rand-paul-address-ralph-reeds-religious-right-conference
Ron Paul: Stealth Dominionist:
http://www.religiousrightwatch.com/2011/09/exposing-religious-fundamentalism-in-the-us.html
Random Book Blogging: Gary North, AIDS, Ron Paul, and Christian Reconstructionism
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/random-book-blogging-gary-north-aids-ron-paul-and-christian-reconstructionism
Ron Paul photo with White Supremacist ‘Stormfront’ Leader (particularly see the embedded Orcinus link):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/21/425193/-Ron-Paul-in-photo-with-Stormfront-leader,-son
Dominionists discuss infiltrating #OCCUPYWALLSTREET:
http://www.articlesbase.com/news-and-society-articles/is-gop-stance-on-the-occupy-wall-street-movement-a-mistake-5317528.html
Ron Paul’s brand of tea party is exactly the same as the fundamental Christian right’s brand of tea party (look up “Gary North: Biblical Capitalism”). Paul simply dresses his ideology in secular terms for Republican dupes. In short, he’s a libertarian theocrat, oxymoronic as that sounds (look up “theocratic libertarianism” as well while you’re at it).
See: http://www.theocracywatch.org for background on Christian Reconstruction.
TOO MANY FACTS. WHERE’D YOU GET SO MANY FACTS? TEH GOOGLEZ MACHINE?
/eyeroll
these Ronulans are hard-wired to be bone-headed.
edited: Besides, none of your facts matter because Ron Paul helped an interracial couple at least once, and took a photograph with at least one black person, and probably has let multiple black people use his bathrooms. Young Sam “debunked” the racist charge with a couple videos from black folks who like Ron Paul and a story about an interracial couple.
END OF ARGUMENT.
Or at least, that’s the end of an argument for a young foolish libertarian who has no concept of what racism and privilege is, and who thinks that my having the word “black” in my blog and twitter handle makes me the Real Racist™. A young foolish libertarian who might feel a bit embarrassed to learn that my mother is white. And a young foolish libertarian who ought to learn how to properly use apostrophes and should learn to proofread written work (even if it’s on a blog — practice makes perfect) so as not to seem functionally illiterate.
Luckily for us dear Sam is “done with this shitty site,” so we won’t be seeing said young foolish libertarian ’round these parts no mo’.
::pours beer on curb::
::sheds tear::
Heh. Turns out the InterTubes is good for something besides shopping and porn (grin).
He will be missed.
P.S. Cracked me up.
And let’s not forget that he accidentally may have delivered a brown baby, once.
Sincerely,
Privatize Ron Paul/2012 Campaign
Sam went home to bite the pillow! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De6AkndwRpM
Farewell, young Sam. The world was never meant for one as beautiful as you.
You wont believe me, but I had typed up a whole response to this. Apparently it got lost in the process of sending. I’m way too tired to deal with this shit right now, but I will refute IT ALL soon.
Goodnight Everybody.
You might want to look into the meaning of “refute” at some point.
It has to do with proving a statement wrong, not merely disagreeing with it.
To this point, you’ve offered exactly nothing of the sort.
you’ll see! you’ll all see!!!
dunh dunh DUNNNNNNHHHHHHHHHH~!!
SOME white people are truly hilarious in believing that black people are stupid. All my life, I’ve seen the same shyt play out. Black person is always deemed not good enough. There is nothing more that indicts so-called post-racial whites than their absolute irrational ranting about President Obama not being good enough, not doing what he says he would do…damn the facts. And this folks is what one form of racism looks like. I know it well and if some of these silly white folks think they are convincing anyone other than other silly white folks that it is anything other than racism, they are indeed the fools I’ve longed watched all my life. No different than those who went before them.
You are in denial about Ron Paul. You can’t face facts and this drivel you’ve written doesn’t change that.
You can’t even see that Paul is on his way out. He has no chance of getting the nomination. He’s just as hated by the GOP establishment as Gingrich and he’s in his 70s. And there’s a very good chance that his campaign is trying to cover up his health issues. His recent campaigning behavior is extremely odd (even for him).
As for your statement about Obama not living up to anything he said he would do; what about Ron Paul? Paul claims to be for “small government” but is up to his ears in earmarks for his district back in Texas. He negotiates the earmarks in private and then votes “no” for the record. He knows that his “no” vote wouldn’t change the outcome, but he can have his earmarks and still be on the record as being opposed to them.
He supported AUMF, but has a problem when Obama uses it to finally get OBL. And as long as he’s opposed to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 – most people of color will steer clear of the man. Why should I support a man who opposes legislation that helped me and my family live a better life than our ancestors?
You’ve proven the point of this ABL’s. You will deny regardless of how many facts are given to you. Oh well. What can you do with a lost cause?
Hey Sam!
Has it occurred to you that ABL might be voting for Obama because he’s better on the policies? That’s why he’s got my vote. I appreciate the historic nature of the first black person in the Presidency, but I wouldn’t have voted for Herman Cain.
I can’t ever know what’s in Dr. Paul’s heart. I do think that although he may be AOK with interracial marriage personally, if the state of Virginia made it illegal he thinks that the federal government should let it stand. That’s flat out CRAZY, and we already fought a war over that kind of shit.
How can you not know what’s in his heart, by his actions? He helped that “interracial” couple, because the rest of the staff in the hospital wouldn’t. He then took him and his wife to a room, and gave birth to their still-born child. He told them not to worry about the Medical Bills, he would take care of it. How does that NOT show what’s truly in his heart? That clearly proves he see’s no race. The newspaper thing is just dug up mudslinging, that he had no part of. He had a paper with his name on it, yes. He didn’t write for it. He had people working for him, that HIRED the writers. You can’t believe everything you hear, you have to actually do research and hear the words come out of his mouth themselves. That fact that she has “Black” written all over EVERYTHING she does, is more than enough to tell me why she’s supporting Obama. What policies? You mean the one’s he bows down too when someone offers him money, or just because it will make him “look” better to a specific demographic? The FED has NO place in State Government, the fact that a state would seriously think they could do that in modern time, is just ludicrous. It would NEVER happen, no matter who was president. That’s where the constitution comes into play. I’m tired of people writing about “racism”, if people would just stop fucking bringing it up, no one would fucking think about it. It’s that simple. It starts with just one person keeping their mouth shut about it, then it spreads. It’s simple, but no one wants to do it? It’s like they think the world owes them something? I owe them nothing, but respect for the type of person they are, and if someone were to get respect from me just because of the color of their skin….that would make me racist just as much as hating someone because the color of their skin.
bless your heart.
I’m tired of people writing about “racism”, if people would just stop fucking bringing it up,
no one wouldI wouldn’t have to fucking think about it.FTFY.
No, it was actually perfect the first time. I remember, the first time I actually had that thought, “if people would just stop talking about it, it wouldn’t be a problem.” I thought about the media, and the government, how they portray race. They say it’s bad, blah blah blah. My History teacher, was one of those annoying right winged, Glenn Beck loving assholes. He told the class “…If ‘blacks’ want respect why don’t they stop reverse racism. After all, if you look at test scores from the schools in the nation, it proves that whites have a better mentally and are smarter.” That statement, that ignorant, ridiculous statement right there, pissed me off. I looked at him and asked “Why are there even bubbles on the state tests for race of the student?” He looked at me and said… “Well, so we can keep track.”
I replied “Well, why? We’re all people…right?”
He just looked at me, without a response, with his damn FOX News coffee mug in his hand ( that I hated ).
That’s what I’m getting at, I see no race, because I could care less. If you’re a good person, awesome. If not, then I want nothing to do with you? That’s where I’m getting at with Ron Paul…just because of 1 incident, that someone brought up, just to cause controversy, NOT because it was that he was indeed racist….doesn’t mean he is racist. He takes responsibility for it, but he also said that he didn’t write anything for the papers, and he apologized for whoever it offended. He can’t do anything more about it, those papers no longer exist anyway. What’s done is done, and he’s moving on to make sure EVERYONE in this country has an amazing country to belong to.
Omg. Can you find a way to make your point a bit shorter than “war and peace”?
No, because I obviously have to clarify every detail for people, because they refuse to even research it themselves, and try to just argue.
So, instead of refuting his point, you pull a TL;DR? Impressive powers of refutation; no one can deny the magnitude of the statement you just procured out of those agile fingertips of yours.
It’s not their fault. Research also involves a lot of reading, something that, that person obviously doesn’t want put a lot of time into.
They also don’t like an 18 year old Female, from Kentucky (of all places, best education ever, right?) telling them all of these facts.
You are not discussing facts. You are reacting to devastating facts by deflecting, drowning this site with a torrent of words about what a saint Paul is. That isn’t research. That is stubbornly digging in , sticking your fingers in your ears., and humming loudly. You and your pal try to play “you”re a racist” game with ABL and that shit doesn’t wash here. Especially since your “research” doesn’t address paul’s comments about his views on a landmark piece of legislation like the civil rights act.
Shorter me: go friend each other on face book already and fleck off . I am sick of reading racially tone deaf shit from kids.
So you’re telling us that Dr. Paul couldn’t multi-task well enough to keep track of what went in newsletters bearing his name, but he’s somehow qualified to lead the government of the biggest superpower on Earth?
Is that your final answer?
It’s a newspaper.
A fucking, newspaper.
The president we have now doesn’t have a clue as to what he’s doing, until someone throws money in his face.
The fact that you compare something so small such as a newspaper, to being the Pres. of the U.S. just shows your lack of debate skills.
Oh my God, you people aren’t even worth it anymore. You all have seriously, NOTHING, bad on this guy. Nothing bad on his Character, if you don’t agree with something he stands for , that’s fine. Just the fact that you all still don’t understand the fucking newspaper thing, that happened over 20 years ago, jeez. I’m just starting to give no fucks now.
It’s like teaching pre-school students. They don’t want to listen to you, they want to do what they want because of their stubbornness as a child, although you teach them the same thing, over and over again.
Talking to any of you, is just pointless. No one has budged from the Newspaper bullshit, because that’s all they have to use.
Ron Paul was as a Congressman and OBGYN, the last thing on his mind, during both of those jobs, was his newspaper, that he hired people to work on. He left his trust in those select few, to choose good writers/editors, and just because they messed up, all of a sudden he can’t handle anything, but let’s not remember he was working 2 other jobs and the same damn time, that took up at least 99% of his attention.
Dear Lord, what is wrong with people. I don’t understand, why we have to repeat everything 15 times.
and yet here you still are — raging impotently at people who don’t give a shit and who are laughing at you.
Then there’s the door man, dont let it hit you on the way out.
Listen, the est way not to react to so many people who are critical is to remove the google alert for every Ron Paul story, the stress will kill ya
Thank you for acknowledging that Ron Paul isn’t even competent enough to run his own newsletter. I don’t know about you, but if something was going out with my name on it, I’d MAKE the motherfucking time to read every last goddamn syllable so I didn’t end up having to do damage control down the road for what the racist assholes I hired put in under my name.
He was working “Two other jobs?” Just what the fuck do you think being president entails? Keep digging the hole — you look so cute sitting there in the dirt.
Hon, I’ll try to make this as simple as possible: people are not falling for whatever fantasy you’re peddling, because they HAVE done the research.
Yeah, and people with a brain, and respect for all humanity don’t read this rubbish blog. I’ve given you nothing but facts, you give me nothing but responses just to respond and make yourself feel like you got the last word in.
Actually, just tell me. What part of what I said, (Other than Ron Paul facts) makes you think I’m living in a fantasy?
Pretty much every word, including “and” and “the”.
Work for you then, Sparky?
Yet again, just responding, just to respond I see.
If you tell me you did that because of Mary McCarthy and Lillian Hellman, I’m gonna be SO happy.
“You” meaning Monsieur Ponytail, of course.
When I steal, I steal quality.
You know what they say — amateurs plagiarize. The great ones steal!
Just because Paul isn’t a monster who would let a woman die in a hospital waiting room doesn’t mean he’s not a racist. He is a fucking DOCTOR after all, and he probably took that Hippocratic oath seriously.
Seen the movie “Crash”? Matt Dillon’s character saved that black woman from the burning car BECAUSE IT WAS HIS JOB. He was still a racist.
The thing wrong with your statement is though, that he didn’t have to help them, after all, the other doctors in the building were avoiding them. Some nurses even tried saying that man was harassing her for trying to get help for his wife. Racism was still bad during that time, in that particular town.
How do you explain why he didn’t make them pay for medical bills then? That was his choice.
Racism was bad in that town in those days, was it? Clearly everyone needed to quit talking about it so it would go away.
I don’t even care anymore. If no one talked about the color of someone’s skin, we obviously wouldn’t have issues.
Say what you want, but you just look ignorant.
It must suck getting your ass handed to you by a 18 year old.
Let us know when that 18 year old shows up. So far, all I read is a twit high fiving herself for writing sentences.
You are a fucking idiot.
That is all.
He helped an interracial couple, but he’s able to get endorsements from David Duke and Don Black? And he’s also a favorite on Black’s website, Stormfront.
Wow! What irony?
Sorry, but Paul is a racist. Deal with it.
There is no convincing these people.
Conveniently, their man is not going to win the nomination, so that’s all right.
It is sort of terrifying, though.
Oy! And they call us bots?
I will never understand the hero worship that Paul fans have for the man, probably because I can’t understand hero worship in anyone. I mean, I like Obama, a LOT as a person, and very much as a president, but I see his flaws and have griped about them on many occasions.
Paulians think the man can do no wrong and that he has discovered some secret that everyone else has failed to find, and that anyone who doesn’t appreciate Paul’s genius is too stupid to understand it. It’s the same mentality of conspiracy theorists. The world is troublesome and complicated and doesn’t make sense, and so they find “evidence” that supports elaborate knot-filled theories of why things happen(ed) that somehow make more sense with their preconceived worldviews, and anyone who doesn’t agree is just a sheep who is being fed bullshit by the mainstream media, or something.
It makes them feel smarter to think that they “get it” and we all don’t. That’s all.
Or, we just do research, watch debates, compare what they say now, to what they said in the 70′s-recent day.
I actually had NO idea who Paul was until a few months ago. I planned on not even fooling with it. Until I did some research on the guy, watch I don’t know how many videos, speeches, debates. Obama has a pattern of lying and switching sides. Paul doesn’t, Paul has even predicted what was going to happen, and was correct. I don’t know how that’s not enough proof to show that he’s fit for president.
Conspiracy theorist? Hardly. I’ve found facts, actual words that the man has spoken. I never watch any sort of News, because it does lie, and I thought this WAY before I found out about Paul.
It’s just the fact, that they only thing people have on Paul are these racist newsletters from the 80′s/90′s, that weren’t even written by him. They were published under his name. He didn’t know about it, until someone brought it up. It’s just funny, how no one was fussing about it, until he started running in 08′ and now in 2012? Sort of like how ignorant people think Obama is a Muslim/Terrorist/Socialist asshole, who wasn’t born in America.
We find out facts on our guy, a guy who has been consistent for 30 years now. Who goes by the constitution only, because those are the only rules meant for our country, everything we need is in that. I agree with Obama, on very few things. I disagree with Ron on very few things, but not enough to make me think he’s not suitable to be the president. There’s no candidate that I will agree with 100%, that’s hard to find. However, he’s the most honesty man we’ve seen in a while, and that’s what we need.
There’s plenty wrong with Paul’s philosophy apart from the racism in the newsletters. Libertarians, it’s all the same. Looking for a higher moral justification for being selfish.
Again though, you masterfully make my points by speaking. You say you’re not like a conspiracy theorist, but you assume that people who don’t see it your way have not “done the research” that you’ve done. We’re all just stupid and uninformed. I bet you feel sorry for us ignorant masses. If only we KNEW.
You say you were like this before you even HEARD of Ron Paul. I have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT of that. Because you are smarter than everyone around you, and finally you found a politician who GETS IT. He has validated everything you’ve always known was true. You knew it was true even before you did the RESEARCH, right?
But the thing is, we DO know the facts, some of which you are denying exist. Like saying that nobody was talking about Paul’s newsletter until 2008. Not true. Most people had no idea who Ron Paul was until then, but the newsletters were very much an issue in his 1996 run for Congress, and the newspaper articles on the subject are out there for you to read. You’re good at Google, I can tell. Go check ‘em out.
Libertarians are particularly interesting because they denounce religion and exalt logic, and yet they believe in theories that only work in a vacuum and have no real world application with actual human beings that have feelings and loves and hates and other illogical stuff. It’s like masturbating in a mirror.
Well, actually. I never put myself in any political party because I think they all have strayed from the Constitustion. You just sound mad honestly. I have done nothing but try to give you reasoning as to why I support him. I have even debunked the racism thing, multiple times, not just because I like the guy, but because I have done actual research.
I actually don’t like using Google, believe it or not.
I don’t like religion, no. I do however believe in Jesus Christ. I don’t like belonging to a church, because I feel as if Christianity has strayed towards the wrong direction.
I never said they weren’t out there to read, I said that he takes full responsibility and he has apologized for something someone else has written? How does anything you said, prove to me that he wrote it and he is a racist? It doesn’t, you’re just going in circles. No one cared, until he started running, is what I said. Because they didn’t, no one ever makes a big deal about anything, until they run for something as big as this. Just because they want to see their Man/Woman win.
It’s very easy to understand.
David, I can tell you are smart and I respect your difference in opinion, however there are a few points I would like to point out.
#1:
If we are coming across as arrogant, I apologies. Thing is, it’s like seeing the answer to a puzzle and then trying to tell everyone about it; you get frustrated when people don’t see the answer.
IE: When people see the passing of the NDAA, EEA, and ACTA and dismiss it, it is absolutely insane to those who are sensitive to the civil rights of our country. Again, when you see the government practicing Keynesian economic policy and printing more paper money without any backing thinking that it will fix this economic crisis for good, you want to rip your hair out because the practice of Fractional Reserve Banking is producing nothing out of thin air except inflation and is not based in sound economics. Yet again, you see the government rewarding companies who failed with bailouts, and you want to bang your head against the wall when people don’t realize that by rewarding failure you incentivise more failure.
No system is perfect, however we have educated ourselves to a point where we see that Libertarianism seems to be the best option. I’m not saying we are fortune tellers, but you have to admit that our passion is not illogical.
If you valued research; you would be denying the information about Paul’s white supremacist ties?
‘Research’ as used by the People of the Paul doesn’t mean ‘research’ as most people mean it. Similarly, when they urge the rest of us to ‘educate ourselves’, it has a unique meaning. In both cases, any information that emerges that might tend to make the researcher think less of Ron Paul is dismissed as false, biased or irrelevent.
In fact, in the mind of the standard-issue Paulian, the key sign that you are educated is your ability to understand how unimportant all the unpleasant things you might learn about Ron Paul are.
Angry Black Lady,
I really don’t understand why you have chosen to vilify a man whose “evidence” of racism is, at best, circumstantial and extremely questionable.
I freely admit to being a Paulbot, but the thing is, I’ve done my research. I’ve looked into every aspect of the man and the only dirt people can find of him is that of the, admittedly, racist newsletters that were not written by him due to the fact that he was a working OBGYN and Congressman and this “expose” of him from “Anonymous”, a group that has supported him in the past due to his views on freedom and doesn’t have one true leader. Anyone could claim themselves as “Anonymous” because of this leadership. Additionally, when one looks for video evidence of Ron Paul’s racism, you cannot find it. Any time he has spoken, there has not been a hint of arrogance or pride. What you will find is a humble man who is more consistent than any other that I know.
The man’s message is bulletproof; no one can question any of his policies intelligently, so they resort to slandering his name and calling him “insane”. His libertarian view of life and politics is inherently colorblind; one has to judge someone based on their individual character, not a mere group assigned by race, gender, or sexuality.
For thirty years the man has stuck to his guns as a politician, and it is because of this dedication to liberty that I feel I should honor my commitment to him.
I know this may not convince you of his innocence, but I just wanted to write a message that cleared everything up about him.
You are right…there is no discussion with paulbots You have a man who viewed the civil rights act as an inconvenience, who was complicit in the newsletters but one black guy goes on YouTube and TAA DAH what a humanitarian. Whirling dervishes spin less.
Plus there was the speech he gave in front of the Confederate flag, but I guess you can’t expect a man of such Christ-like wonderfulness to take time to notice what’s behind him.
…now you’re going to say his racist for a backdrop that he doesn’t even choose?
Oh my Gosh.
Did they sneak up behind him and put up a Confederate flag?
They usually put up the stage and backdrops before the speakers arrives, honestly. Everything’s usually prepared beforehand, to make sure there are no delays.
So he can’t be expected to say something like, “I’m not talking in front of that thing?”
CW, he probably just didn’t notice! The same way he didn’t notice that horribly racist things were going out in newsletters that BORE HIS NAME! He wants to be president, for pete’s sake, and people keep acting like he’s supposed to exhibit leadership and courage! Next you’ll bring up the pesky fact that despite trying to position himself as an anti-war guy, he voted FOR the AUMF! (Which of course is where many of the NDAA provisions originated.)
that would have been impolite to the racists he was addressing. one mustn’t disturb the delicate sensibilities of those who think the south will rise again.
Not disputing that.
Pull up that speech for me and point out what exactly was racist. The confederate flag is inflammatory to most, but to many in the south it represents the battle for states rights. Ron Paul stated explicitly in the video that he was there to discuss states rights, nothing about racism.
You jump to conclusions without actually looking at the content of his speech.
“States’ rights” mainly involving the desired right of a given state to retain its Jim Crow laws.
Your ignorance is showing my good sir. Jim Crow laws weren’t in effect until 1876, after the Civil War.
A main example of the issue of rights was the nullification crisis.Go look it up if you don’t believe me. It involved, I believe, South Carolina nullifying a tariff imposed by the federal government.
Besides, Ron Paul has a point that the slaves could have been freed the same way the British did without NEARLY as much bloodshed and strife.
Yes, yes, the civil war was completely and totally about states’ rights, and slavery had nothing to do with it, even though one right the Confederate constitution expressly forbade its member states was the right to abolish slavery within said state.
You’ll pardon my skepticism.
You appear to think that ‘states rights’ is a racially neutral concept, especially embedded in a speech that includes the words:
“So when they [Lincoln et al.] saw this opportunity, they used the issue of slavery to precipitate the war and literally cancel out the whole concept of individual choice.”
Kid, I can’t help you if you don’t get this. The man was standing in front of a Confederate flag, condemning the choice to go to war over slavery, and I’m supposed to look at this, his statements on the Civil Rights Act, and those newsletters–which he edited, approved, wrote in some part, and profited from, as well as sending out under his name–and somehow come to the conclusion that this is not a racist. And the avalanche of evidence keeps mounting up, even beyond this, and yet, I am asked to believe that Ron Paul is an honorable man.
Of course, even if he were an honorable man, and even if this evidence could be swept aside as smoothly as his admirers wish, his actual political beliefs would still be somewhere between ‘stupid’ and ‘atrocious’, so perhaps worrying about the untidy heap of racist ideas and associates that Ron Paul drags after him like Marley’s chains is misdirected.
Again, you are choosing to be very inflammatory here. Yes, racism was involved. Yes, the South supported racism. He was not, and I am not, defending this at all.
What is at stake here is that, while in the name of freedom, Lincoln seriously overreached the power of the Federal Government. This set a dangerous precedent for the Federal Government to basically ignore the 10th Amendment while hiding behind the noble banner of freeing those oppressed in the hot, sweltering cotton fields. Lincoln himself said that he would rather have resolved this conflict without freeing the slaves, so take that with what you will.
I love how you dismiss our political ideology as “‘stupid’ and ‘atrocious’”, care to go into any detail whatsoever?
which i discussed here: http://www.angryblacklady.com/2012/01/21/shorter-ron-paul-the-south-will-rise-again/
i find you paul supporters to be an endless source of amusement. “he didn’t choose the backdrop. he didn’t know what was in his newsletters. he didn’t really mean to meet with stormfront. it doesn’t matter that he takes campaign funds from white supremacists.”
it is to laugh.
(edited for grammar fail.)
I don’t really care too much about the grammar as I do about the content of the message. You bring up the point that Ron Paul’s Lamentations at the loss of the sovereignty of the State Governments as guaranteed by the constitution are invalid merely because the people actually sticking to the tenth amendment were the south.
The world is not black and white, maim. You can’t just label one fraction as “evil” and the other “good”. There were atrocities committed by both sides, and yes the South had a particularly egregious one, but by default there also must have been legitimate arguments for each side regarding sovereignty of Governmental power. Don’t be so be so quick to inflammatory regarding history and you will find there to be quite a bit of details overlooked on each side.
1/2 is good. 3/4? EVIL.
what are you even talking about. you’re not making sense.
actually, you’re much like Ron Paul that way.
Massive misrepresentation of facts there.
Within the civil rights act, he only apposed the article that infringed upon property rights. Being the strict constituitonalist that he is, it is a leap of great faith that says he opposed it due to the rights it presented.
“Massive misrepresentation of facts there.”
Yes, it appears to be one of your hobbies.
Don’t even bother. They don’t try to debate, they just argue and use the Google search engine.
I’m exhausted. I do appreciate someone actually trying to help my clear things up, I’m not trying to sound hateful. I just don’t appreciate people ganging up on me, and saying every word that comes out of my mouth is wrong, just because I’m 18. Which for some reason, some people on here don’t believe I am.
Thanks though, RonPaul2012 my friend.
No worries man, just trying to combat the misrepresentation of facts. Keep up your spirit and your hope.
Ron Paul 2012 my friend.
A moment of curiousity strikes me: can you describe your research process? You’ve mentioned a couple of times that you don’t like Google, don’t use it much, that people here just use Google…apparently you don’t care for the news, in general, either.
Where, pray tell, are you getting your information from? Microfilm in the library? Forwarded links? How do you determine if a source is likely to be reliable? How do you check new information?
Ron Paul has a facebook with a link to his website, stating all of his policies and such. You should check it out.
I also suggest checking out Clips from his page perhaps, sometimes YouTube videos, but ONLY if he appears on the show himself. You can’t really trust what they’re taking out of context, and that’s for every candidate.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/
Go to “The Issues”
That should show you about Dr.Paul :)
There’s nothing “new” about Paul, he’s consistent, with these news letters however, I did have to check out some linked videos (of course with Ron Speaking himself).
So, basically, you’re telling me that I should only believe what Ron Paul says about himself?
Well, hell, did I mention that I’m the rightful heir to the throne of England? And a double PhD in international relations and astrophysics?
(Wanders away, shaking head in wonder.)
Makabit, take a look to the post below you.
That’s no what I said at all.
You’re too angry too discuss anything with.
You asked where I did research, and I told you. Lordhelpus even said where he went for research.
As you can see, we are very careful about where we get it. Not just for Ron, but for all candidates. Just as I said above. ^
This isn’t anger, it’s hilarity and a little horror. I know you think you’re being quite sophisticated.
I don’t find anything hilarious at all honestly. I find it quite horrifying you don’t do proper research, based on what you’ve said in previous comments. Which is how America got to where she is now. It’s upsetting. I take it seriously, which is why I try to find the most honesty person to help run the country in the right direction, for everyone.
Honey, you’ve made it pretty clear that you haven’t got a clue what ‘proper research’ looks like.
good god almighty. dearest sam – i assure you that i and everyone in this thread has spent time researching ron paul. some day i hope you will realize how deranged you and your fellow Ronulans sound.
cheers.
Implying that you aren’t the ones that are horribly misguided.
egészségére.
Imply? Hell, I’ll say it right out.
Gesundheit!
We’ll agree to disagree my good sir.
Meh, I thought I was going to be witty by saying “cheers” in Hungarian. I guess it came across as arrogant. Thanks for calling me out.
For me it was a lot of research into CSPAN records, interviews, and investigation into the infrastructure of our current economic and social policies. Tons of debate videos, both current and historical, were watched and, when looking through the lens of history, many of the warnings he said, particularly in a video dated to 2002, are startlingly accurate. A lot of this came from Youtube, so take that for what you may.
News is fine when it is fair, but the common media networks have avoided Ron Paul like the plague, extremely strange when you think about the support he has behind him.
(IE: One of the post debates mentioned Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich a total of 90ish times, Ron Paul was mentioned in passing once.)
(IE #2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0QPcoTZg8
)
Here is a video of said predictions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJG_oFFDK0
I think you just gave me more places to do research on, thank you. I have a hard time trusting anything anymore. I fear that the internet we once used, will start becoming another misinforming “enemy”.
Yea, always take what the media says with a grain of massive salt. Don’t be paranoid though, just be rational.
If you don’t understand economic policy (Keynesian vs Austrian)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQnarzmTOc
watch that video. It’s pretty entertaining.
Don’t forget this beauty:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h300:
That one’s HR 300, sponsored by Dr. Ron. Section 3 is just great!
SEC. 3. LIMITATION ON JURISDICTION.
The Supreme Court of the United States and each Federal court–
(1) shall not adjudicate–
(A) any claim involving the laws, regulations, or policies of any State or unit of local government relating to the free exercise or establishment of religion;
(B) any claim based upon the right of privacy, including any such claim related to any issue of sexual practices, orientation, or reproduction; or
(C) any claim based upon equal protection of the laws to the extent such claim is based upon the right to marry without regard to sex or sexual orientation; and
(2) shall not rely on any judicial decision involving any issue referred to in paragraph (1).
Or does a strict constitutionalist not recognize the legality of amending the Constitution by, like, ya know, passing the 14th Amendment, which incorporates the Bill of Rights to the individual states?
also, Ron Paul is such a lover of liberty that he signed the personhood pledge! giving the government control over women’s reproductive rights!
FREE MARKET PREGNANCIES FOR EVERYONE.
this has truly been a stunning display of cultish brainwashing.
Don’t get me started on pro-choice or pro-life. A woman and man can choose whether or not to have sex. When you do that, you accept the risk of having a pregnancy.
Yes, condoms fail, but there are multiple levels of protection even past that.
Don’t even give me that bullshit that a fetus isn’t a person, or that a fetus doesn’t have brain functionality until 6 months. If a newborn was born brain-dead, and the doctor virtually assured you that the newborn would be ok, if not better, than when he came out, would you kill that newborn just for the sake of convenience?
You make me sick.
Number one, thanks to all the smart-asses who corrected my spelling mistakes, I can assure you, I am not proof reading, it’s also fucking 3 a.m. here. God forbid I misspell 3 words, or fuck up my grammar every now and a then. I don’t take blogs seriously, especially these.
Number two, Ron Paul would never force his beliefs on anyone. A big reason he is Pro-Life, is because he has seen a fetus aborted, I mean an actual child, not what people consider “okay” now. It was a child that you could actually hold in your arms.
That being said, he does not think the FED should take over that, that would create a Federal Abortion Department, he does however think it’s murder. In which, he believes, that the states are the ones who should enforce the law. The Federal Gov. is there to make sure all of our rights are being enforced. I’m not getting into the Pro-Life/Pro-Choice bullshit, everyone always thinks they’re right. I believe what I feel is wrong, and you believe whatever you feel is right/wrong.
That being said, I’m finished with this shitty blog site.
My friends and I, from all over, have had a good laugh and a few “face palm” moments from being here.
I’m going to bed, and will be up bright and early to donate to Dr. Paul.
Good Bye.
And don’t forget- and this one’s for the pacifist Paulist Firebaggers- Letters of Marque and Reprisal.
Bravo my good sir. Someone actually responded to actual policies rather than mere conjecture and baseless slander.
My counter is thus; the 14th amendment was, again, diametrically imposed upon State Governments by Federal Legislation. Ron Paul has aimed to repeal the amendment and let the states decide for themselves. Are you seriously implying that such states would not pass legislation to prevent such discrimination in their own courts? The main reason he opposed it was thus; to prevent a conglomeration of power in the Federal government, which is in of itself a monopoly.
“States Rights” to discriminate at will.
“My counter is thus; the 14th amendment was, again, diametrically imposed upon State Governments by Federal Legislation. ”
And how was that done, exactly?
On basis of the 10th amendment.
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Boomshakalaka.
Yeah, but those states in the South weren’t states. They were under martial law. They rebelled to protect their investments in enslaved people and lost. They’d placed themselves in legal limbo.
And the 14th repeals the certain aspects of the 10th, as does the 13th, while the 17th repeals part of the body of the Constitution as adopted before passage of the Bill of Rights.
The Constitution was designed to accommodate evolution as needed (with the exception of slavery and direct taxation, which were exempted from the amendment process for 30 years). Theories of Strict Constructionalism fly in the face of Article V of the Constitution, which, itself, has yet to be affected.
We get it. Your Austrian economics is pure Ann Randian economics which is not much different from fascism.
Oh lord.
You think you are so smart do you? Spouting jargon like a fucking pseudo-intellectual at a Harvard bar trying to impress the ladies when you have no idea of the implications of what you are saying.
A fascist government implies a government that has an overreaching say in every facet of life, including that of economy. A ideal libertarian society is the EXACT OPPOSITE. A true free market, which is currently not being practiced here is AMERICUH, is devoid of all unnecessary regulations as such just decrease efficiency and actually have the hilariously ironic effect of empowering Business monopolies.
Thats right. Many of the abusive corporate monopolies we have come to know and hate are actually those instigated by regulation. An example would be that of the Western Railroads, which banded together to form legislation that allowed them to impose a exorbitant price on anyone who used their transportation.
Any natural monopolies that actually arose from unrestricted markets did two things; they were incredibly efficient, and they out priced their competitors. ALCOA and the oil barons come to mind here. Not exactly the abusive power you would think that would originate from unregulated government eh?
To correct myself,
is AMERICUH = in AMERICUH
from unregulated government eh? = from unregulated business eh?
Oops, make that Ayn Randian (Ein Randian – can’t wrap my brain around that)
Who Is Ron Paul?
In His Own Words…
[VIDEO] Ron Paul promises “big cuts” in new ad:
“Paul has vowed to cut $1 trillion from the budget in the first year if he were elected president by ending the U.S. Departments of Commerce, Education, Energy, Housing and Urban Development (HUD), and Interior.
The Environmental Protection Agency, Food and Drug Administration and Department of Defense would also see deep cuts under his budget plan.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/05/ron-paul-promises-big-cuts-in-new-ad/
[VIDEO] Ron Paul: End Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid:
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/04/ron-paul-end-medicare-social-security-and-medicaid/
[VIDEO] Ron Paul Calls For Federal Public Lands To Be ‘Sold Off To Private Owners’:
http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/10/21/349536/ron-paul-public-lands/
[VIDEO] Ron Paul plans to ‘eventually’ end all federal student aid:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/23/ron-paul-plans-to-eventually-end-all-federal-student-aid/
[VIDEO] Ron Paul Rejects Evolution:
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2011/08/ron_paul_rejects_evolution_too.php#more
[VIDEO] Ron Paul’s powerful pro-life ad:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/14/video-ron-pauls-powerful-pro-life-reminder/
Ron Paul: No Church/State Separation:
http://atheism.about.com/b/2007/08/06/authoritarian-or-libertarian-ron-paul-on-churchstate-separation-secularism.htm
[VIDEO] Ron Paul in a nutshell:
“ThinkProgress compiled video of just a few of Paul’s many claims that basic laws and essential programs violate the Constitution. A short list includes Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the National Labor Relations Board, the Federal Reserve, income taxes, and even the dollar bill.”
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/20/392728/paul-everything-is-unconstitutional/
[VIDEO] CNN: Ron Paul’s Racist Newsletter – Paul Walks on CNN Interview
“Rep. Ron Paul’s (R-TX) emergence as the front-runner in the Iowa GOP primary is bringing new scrutiny on Paul’s newsletters from the 1980s and 1990s. The newsletters, published under his name, included content claiming that African-Americans are trying to give white people HIV, suggested that Washington, DC is “anti-white and proud of it,” provided instructions on how to murder African-Americans, and warned of “malicious gay(s)” who spread HIV.”
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/22/394625/ron-paul-storms-interview-racist/
5 Reasons Progressives Should Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution — ‘Cuddly’ Libertarian Has Some Very Dark Politics
“He’s anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-senior-citizen, anti-equality and anti-education, and that’s just the start.”
http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/152192/5_reasons_progressives_should_treat_ron_paul_with_extreme_caution_–_%27cuddly%27_libertarian_has_some_very_dark_politics?page=entire
Ron Paul [Election 2012] Hires Christian Right Political Activist with American Family Association for Church Outreach:
[Quote] Paul has brought several Christian conservatives onto his campaign in an ambitious effort to reach believers for his cause. Michael Heath, the campaign’s Iowa director, previously worked for a New England-based group called the Christian Civic League of Maine that fought against adding sexual orientation to the state’s Human Rights Act.
The national campaign has tasked Heath with leading church outreach in Iowa, where for months he has met with pastors and Christian congregations. “That’s the biggest part of what I’m doing as state director,” Heath told Yahoo News after a day of knocking on church doors with campaign literature. “Going to churches with a message in support of Dr. Paul’s campaign that is very much faith-based and is also rooted in his commitment to a constitutionally defined limited federal government.” [Unquote]
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/mike-heath-resurfaces-ron-paul-iowa
[VIDEO] Ron Paul’s Full Speech at the Christian Fundamentalist Values Voter Summit 2011
Paul won the straw poll. Note the organizers listed on the screen behind him: Liberty Council, American Family Association, Family Research Council, American Values, Liberty University – the entire Christian Reconstructionist crew all gathered together under one roof.
Listen to ALL of it. Paul says that government has no place in education and that the responsibility for educating children should fall solely to the family. Reiterates elimination of the Dept. of Education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnj-5z9NJoY
Paul Rosenberg: Exposing Religious Fundamentalism in the US [Ron Paul included]
http://spencerwatch.com/2011/09/07/paul-rosenberg-exposing-religious-fundamentalism-in-the-us/
Saint Paul: Inside Ron Paul’s effort to convince conservative Christians that he’s their man [Paul tells Yahoo his policy ideas are rooted in scripture – see former Paul staffer Gary North’s “10,000 page exposition on Biblical Capitalism”]
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/saint-paul-inside-ron-paul-effort-convince-christian-150637605.html
Gary North’s “Biblical Capitalism” [Christian Reconstruction]
http://www.garynorth.com/public/department57.cfm
Rachel Tabachnick on Gary North, Christian Reconstruction, and the Religious Right’s War on Progressive Economic Policy
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/2/1/132159/0192
Like Father Like Son, Rand Paul Opposes Civil Rights Act and Americans with Disabilities Act:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rand-paul-address-ralph-reeds-religious-right-conference
Ron Paul: Stealth Dominionist:
http://www.religiousrightwatch.com/2011/09/exposing-religious-fundamentalism-in-the-us.html
Random Book Blogging: Gary North, AIDS, Ron Paul, and Christian Reconstructionism
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/random-book-blogging-gary-north-aids-ron-paul-and-christian-reconstructionism
Ron Paul photo with White Supremacist ‘Stormfront’ Leader (particularly see the embedded Orcinus link):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/21/425193/-Ron-Paul-in-photo-with-Stormfront-leader,-son
Dominionists discuss infiltrating #OCCUPYWALLSTREET:
http://www.articlesbase.com/news-and-society-articles/is-gop-stance-on-the-occupy-wall-street-movement-a-mistake-5317528.html
Ron Paul’s brand of tea party is exactly the same as the fundamental Christian right’s brand of tea party (look up “Gary North: Biblical Capitalism”). Paul simply dresses his ideology in secular terms for Republican dupes. In short, he’s a libertarian theocrat, oxymoronic as that sounds (look up “theocratic libertarianism” as well while you’re at it).
See: http://www.theocracywatch.org for background on Christian Reconstruction.
Ron Paul is a fraud. He’s not even a real libertarnian. He’s been stringing along supporters like you for decades.
And he’s no Washington outsider. There’s no where he could serve in Congress for 20 years and still claim to be an “outsider.” All those earmarks for his district disprove his so-called “outsider” status.
Ronulans: White Supremacists for Ron Paul denying Ron Paul’s racism.
Precious.
In response to your previous post, I am absolutely appalled at the way your brains process an argument.
Is there some missing functionality that causes you to miss points addressed previously and then act like you are the ones who dominated a discussion?
Quite cute.
See what I did there?
Actually, we are dominating the discussion. Duh! Even an impartial observer can see that.
“See what I did there?”
There and in all your other posts, spewed nonsense and falsehoods only a Paultard could love. When you have something other than that, do let us know.
We’ll wait, really.
(And of course, you’ll continue to sidestep and misdirect – it’s what you do, after all.)
Now, that’s mean. They’re young. And idealistic.
Tomorrow belongs to them. In a sort of “Jam yesterday and jam tomorrow, but never jam today” sort of way of course.
What puzzles me is whether they actually think he can win the nomination or the presidency. That, I think, is the final frontier of Paulianismo.
I appreciate not going full-throttle Ad Homenim on me like the previous guy. We are merely starting a movement. If he wins, I might cry. If not, progress was still made.
One can only hope in the coming years that America wakes up to the slow euthanization of our civil liberties.
Unfortunately, it’s true. Rand Paul’s campaign hiring Neo-Nazi’s as body guards, stomping on a woman’s head… now that’s mean. Fascism… that’s really, really mean. And that just so happens to be what the tea partiers and Ron Paul fans are after…
Anonymous finally got the goods on Paul: http://pirasec.com/
No apologies or guilt forthcoming.
Lies upon misinformation upon lies.
I’ve never even heard about the Neo-Nazi shit; you can take that dog out and kill it in the backyard.
The stomping upon the woman’s head was regrettable, however there is more to it than merely stomping because of rage alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsrD9NxRC74
Look at the video. Why is the woman wearing a wig? Why are the people shouting “get the police”? It seems suspicious. Also, to imply that one man prone to violence represents the message of freedom that we represent is simply moronic.
The Anon “expose” you so proudly flaunt is of major question as Anon has been in major support of Ron Paul before, and yet they pull this little stunt. False flag attacks in Anons name have happened before (IE: the shutdown of the Sony network), how in the world do you know that this isn’t bullshit? It’s fucking Anon, there is no central leadership.
Are you referring to that FAKE Anon video on YouTube?
Heh. Heh. Heh.
Don’t let reality hit you in the arse on the way out.
P.S. The email cache is posted online. Stick a Ron Paul fork in you, you’re done.
If you examine my wording closely…
Nevermind. I was being mean too. Not that I feel guilty about it.
;)
Wait Wait Sister Sam.
f you can take this quiz and it comes up Paul I would be amazed
http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004491
Paul
93% agreed
Johnson
89% agreed
Roemer
71% agreed
Santorum
71% agreed
Gingrich
67% agreed
Obama
43% agreed
Romney
42% agreed
I think he is asleep, but yea.
I know my shit man.
Huh. Turns out I am an Obama voter. Who knew?
Couldn’t sleep, so I came in here & now I am exhausted. Sam, if you come back, which you will, please consider that being surrounded by adults who talk as your History teacher did, may have skewed your reality. Also, in places outside of KY, teachers would be fired for such diatribes.
i’ll believe it when i don’t see it, dear sam. hope you enjoyed your stay. we’ll leave the light on for ya.
of course you’re not getting into the “Pro-Life/Pro-Choice bullshit” because your ron paul is teh bestest argument falls apart. suuuuure, he’d never force his beliefs on anyone. except he already pledged to do so by signing the personhood pledge.
really, sam. your brain must get so tired spewing such contorted logic.
When the general election comes please remember that Obama Romney part
That they are basically the same? I will.
If they’re the same in your book, I’m afraid you really don’t understand the issues.
Ronulans? Cute. I find Paulocks to be more accurate.
Ronulans is a cute nickname, but given the egregious embrace of a fee select talking points to ignore everything else, I prefer the term Paulocks.
I’m personally fond of ‘Paulbearers’, which I saw in use on the Atlantic site.
Thank you; I like that one best that I’ve heard. I never feel quite right using anything suffixed with -tard, and Ronulan doesn’t really fit: Star Trek’s Romulans are full of menace and deviousness, as opposed to windy, incoherent, willfully blind hero-worship.
Ron Paul is a racist. Thinks white race is superior to black race in Newsletters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z5mdY_uUYg&context=C3e1a789ADOEgsToPDskIp5uZjTRceFz9d00jGGDGl
Ron Paul in 2012? No thanks. I’ve had it up to my brown eyes with his cult and cultists.
Looks like Sam and Lordhelpus could say the same thing.
This is so much better than the Superbowl.
Thanks for the ringside seat at the Ron Paul Duh-cathlon, ABL!
Wow, this thread has made me laugh so hard I nearly cried. Great post, keep them coming!
Sam Sam Sam….tsk. Kelly Clarkson what hath your wrought!!
What the absolute fuck. People like “sam” are the reason this nation is doomed. Sorry women’s rights and choice are not important to paulbots. Also, I am so fucking sick of white teenagers who have never personally known a person of color telling me why Ron Paul is not racist.
I’ve learned from experience NEVER to believe an angry black woman. Just sayin….
Gosh, no racism here.
Reading the absolute hatred in these posts, why would anyone believe any one of you? They’d have to be braindead, and probably are. Way too much sodium fluoride water the last few decades. Hope you know how to farm, otherwise you’ll probably starve to death in the next 10 or so years.
Oh, I was planning on eating the Ron Paul worshipers.
While I share your concern for our precious bodily fluids, I think you’ve mistaken ‘boredom with pompous fools’ for ‘hatred’.
Keep that crazy coming!
I think the thing that really makes me sad is that people like Sam and lordhelpus will accept anything they see posted online as the truth, and because they saw it first, they’ll assimilate it, and then hold it as absolute truth, all the while telling others to “do their research” while they have done none.
This article is the biggest show of racism I’ve seen! P.S. You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
You mean those links that are references to Ron Paul’s statements and beliefs? Yes, certainly. Proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
By the way – who really wants to catch flies?
Well this is very interesting? Definitely not for Ron Paul though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Og2xv2cnaQ