Are you kidding me with this guy?
It amuses me to no end when white folks laud the Declaration of Independence — with all of its lofty rhetoric about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness — all the while stoically ignoring that all that happy-happy-joy-joy talk didn’t apply to the Africans whites dragged to this country and enslaved.
So when I see the tiny wizened messiah talking about the Civil War and lamenting all the liberty that was lost as a result of the war, I laugh bitterly. When I hear him talking about goooooold! and ending the Fed, I begin banging my head against the closest wall.
Dude is so out of touch with the 21st century, I’m starting to wonder if he’s some sort of time traveler who crawled through the Rift and has managed somehow to amass Paul-lovers and the Paul-curious from each end of the political spectrum, and everything in between. Everyone from Katrina vanden Heuvel and Glenn Greenwald to David Duke and Stormfront are singing this guy’s praises, in some fashion or another (but not necessarily endorsing him. *wink wink*)
I find it fascinating and more than a little unsettling.
Here is Ron Paul giving a speech about how the South was right, and the Civil War was awful because it destroyed “individual choice.” Never mind “individual choice” vis-à-vis the enslaved; they weren’t people and thus could lay no claim to “individuality” or “liberty.” What Paul means by “individual choice,” is “white men’s (specifically white property-owning men) individual choice.”
Just look at this silly little man, standing proudly in front of a Confederate flag talking about the enslavement of black people in transactional terms. In the Ron Paul Gospel, adherence to the quintessential American values of “individual choice and” “liberty” would have required the Yankees to buy the slaves’ freedom. A detestable notion, to be sure, but also historically inaccurate since, as we all know, the South started it.
Ultimately, when it comes to black people, the world “liberty” seems to disappear from Paul’s vocabulary. Funny, that.
The war advanced regardless and it was pursued of course with so much pain and suffering, and the country was lead to believe and every one of our public schools since then have preached, and harped, and pounded it into our kids that the only issue that was involved was slavery.
And yet that was the excuse and that was the rabblerousing issue, and it was — you can’t deny that it was an important issue, but that really wasn’t the issue of why the war was fought, in my estimation.
You know there were over eleven countries up until that time and shortly thereafter in this hemispehere, in north and south America – eleven different countries that had slavery. Every one of them got rid of slavery without war. There were different vehicles. There was legislation, and one of the techniques they use as was literally buying slaves’ freedom which makes a lot of sense when you consider the cost of war – not only the 600-700,000 American deaths, but the loss of liberty, the untold cost. There must have been a tremendous motivation for that war to be fought.
So when they [Lincoln et al.] saw this opportunity, they used the issue of slavery to precipitate the war and literally cancel out the whole concept of individual choice.
Mylanta –it’s enough to make one’s skin crawl. Ron Paul is no dove. He’s no peacenik. He’s an isolationist. He quite literally doesn’t give a shit about other people. Blacks enslaved? Just buy their freedom! Genocide in Wherever? Not our problem. Civil Rights Act? Fuck it, white people can discriminate if they damn well feel like it.
But he’s not racist! And if you dare say so, the Ronulans attack with the ferocity of a pack of wild jackals. Never mind the affront to black Americans that the very existence of this video represents ( a video which, by the way, the Patriot Review refused to take down (despite requests by Ron Paul supporters to do so — damage control and all that)) because they think it might help Ron Paul win votes in today’s primary in South Carolina. After all, Paul’s got to out-racist the Racist-in Chief, Newt Gingrich. That’s how the South Carolina primary rolls, son.
I find Ron Paul disgusting, and the notion that this man brings anything of value to the political discussion is a sick joke perpetrated by the likes of Glenn Greenwald who has such disdain for discussions of privilege, and scoffs at the notion that he might benefit from privilege, that he uses sneering “sarcastic quotes” to describe it (and then has the gall to lament the marginalization of RPOC (RonPaulogists of Color).) The hypocrisy is astounding, as is his utter failure to understand privilege and how it works. As aptly described by illllllllllllli in “On Glenn Greenwald’s White Privilege and Idiotic “Non-Partisanship,” which begins with a quote from Greenwald:
Some Democratic loyalists have explicitly argued that contrasting Obama with Ron Paul on these issues is warped because issues of war and civil liberties are, at best, ancillary concerns, while others have gone so far as to claim that only racial and/or gender bias — white male “privilege” — would cause someone to use the Paul candidacy to highlight how odious Obama has been in these areas.
From “Who are the victims of civil liberties assaults and Endless War?”, Glenn Greenwald [google it, I won't link it. -ed.]
No, goddammit. Deliberately misrepresenting the argument. While male “privilege” (how ugly to put it in quotes, as if it doesn’t exist) doesn’t cause someone to view Paul as a possible counter to Obama’s destruction and oppression, it allows them. When a candidate says that they will remove certain burdens that affect the nation as a whole, while greatly increasing burdens felt by minorities, the poor, women and their allies, then minorities, the poor, women and their allies will naturally find this candidate to be grotesque. To be able to ignore these concerns, to not see Ron Paul as a threat, directly targeting you because of your social status, ethnicity and gender, is the fucking definition of white male “privilege”.
But you know, Ron Paul would end the war in Afghanistan, legalize weed to keep black people out of jail, and he delivers black babies, so it’s all good. Right, Glenn?
Talk about liberty and justice for some.
(h/t Allan for “tiny wizened messiah”)