Karma is a bitch.
ORLY?
Perhaps the most toxic legacy of the 2008 Presidential campaign was the emergence of the Birthers.
As Barack Obama’s campaign took off, a die-hard band of desperate reality-deniers, led by their cuckoo queen Dentist/Lawyer Orly Taitz, combined increasingly ridiculous conspiracy theories about the circumstances and location of Obama’s birth with a peculiar hard-core interpretation of the intent behind the Constitutional phrase “natural born citizens” into a (to them) compelling case that Obama was ineligible to be POTUS.
At first, they posited, Barack Hussein Obama was not actually born in the state of Hawaii, but was instead born in Kenya, then whisked into the US and records falsified to make him an American. Because Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. intentionally left the US while she was enormous with child so that she could give birth to her son in a third-world country instead of an American hospital, but anticipated that their bi-racial son born in pre-Loving v. Virginia America would someday be a shoo-in for the Presidency or something.
As people continued to point and laugh at their complex crackpot theories, some Birthers began to advance a second argument, which they found even more compelling.
Even if they conceded that Obama was born on US soil, he didn’t meet the criterion of “natural born citizen” because his birth father was not himself a US citizen, but a Kenyan. By stretching the Constitution just so and holding it over a candle to reveal hidden inscriptions in invisible ink, they determined that a “natural born citizen” could not be born to a parent who held citizenship in any other country, because that made the child a dual national, not a real American.
So even after President Obama was hectored and pestered by diehard racists and preening jackwagons like Donald Trump into releasing copies of the President’s original long-form birth certificate from its vaults, it was immaterial. To the Birthers, his father’s Kenyan citizenship meant that Barack Obama still wasn’t an authentic American.
Still with me? Good. Here’s where the fun begins.
Mitt Romney’s great-grandfather, faced in 1884 with arrest for the practice of polygamy, packed up his five sister-wives and progeny and high-tailed it south of the border to Mexico. Mitt’s father George Romney was born in Mexico, which conferred Mexican birthright citizenship to him regardless of his parents’ nationality.
Meet the Mexican branch of the Romney family in this interview with Univision (don’t worry, there are subtitles so you can understand them!).
I know, you’re saying to yourself, this is crazy! It doesn’t matter where George Romney was born because his parents were Americans. George Romney even pursued the presidency himself in 1968 and his eligibility was not questioned. And furthermore, Obama’s rival in 2008, John McCain, was himself born on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone to American-born parents, and when the question of his own eligibility for the office began to percolate, the Senate passed a non-binding resolution declaring him to be a natural born citizen.
Wait a minute. You didn’t know about that?
I’m going to excerpt at length from that Washington Post story from 2008, because I believe that it holds the key to truly understanding why the Birther movement was born. (All emphasis added)
The Senate has unanimously declared John McCain a natural-born citizen, eligible to be president of the United States.
That is the good news for the presumptive Republican nominee, who was born nearly 72 years ago in a military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, then under U.S. jurisdiction. The bad news is that the nonbinding Senate resolution passed Wednesday night is simply an opinion that has little bearing on an arcane constitutional debate that has preoccupied legal scholars for many weeks.
Article II of the Constitution states that “no person except a natural born citizen . . . shall be eligible to the office of president.” The problem is that the Founding Fathers never defined exactly what they meant by “natural born citizen,” and the matter has never been fully tested in court. At least three pending cases are challenging McCain’s right to be sworn in as president.
Jurists on both sides of the political divide, consulted by the McCain campaign, insist that the issue is clear-cut. They argue that McCain is a natural-born citizen because the United States held sovereignty over the Panama Canal Zone at the time of his birth, on Aug. 29, 1936; because he was born on a U.S. military base; and because his parents were U.S. citizens.
But Sarah H. Duggin, an associate law professor at Catholic University who has studied the “natural born” issue in detail, said the question is “not so simple.” While she said McCain would probably prevail in a determined legal challenge to his eligibility to be president, she added that the matter can be fully resolved only by a constitutional amendment or a Supreme Court decision.
“The Constitution is ambiguous,” Duggin said. “The McCain side has some really good arguments, but ultimately there has never been any real resolution of this issue. Congress cannot legislatively change the meaning of the Constitution.”
But wait; it gets better.
One person who disagrees with that premise is New Hampshire resident Fred Hollander, who has filed a suit in U.S. District Court claiming that the Republican candidate is “not a natural born citizen.” In an attempt to prove his argument, the 49-year-old computer programmer filed a subpoena last month seeking McCain’s birth certificate.
The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees citizenship services, declined to hand over copies of the document, saying the subpoena was improperly served.
In his autobiography, “Faith of My Fathers,” McCain writes that he was born “in the Canal Zone” at the U.S. Naval Air Station in Coco Solo, which was under the command of his grandfather, John S. McCain Sr. The senator’s father, John S. McCain Jr., was an executive officer on a submarine, also based in Coco Solo. His mother, Roberta McCain, now 96, has vivid memories of lying in bed listening to raucous celebrations of her son’s birth from the nearby officers’ club.
The birth was announced two days later in the English-language Panamanian American newspaper. A senior official of the McCain campaign showed a reporter a copy of the senator’s birth certificate issued by Canal Zone health authorities, recording his birth in the Coco Solo “family hospital.”
Curiously enough, there is no record of McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone Health Department’s bound birth registers, which are publicly available at the National Archives in College Park. A search of the “Child Born Abroad” records of the U.S. consular service for August 1936 included many U.S. citizens born in the Canal Zone but did not turn up any mention of John McCain.
Possible discrepancies in the bureaucratic paperwork are of little concern to Laurence Tribe, a Harvard law professor who looked into the case at the McCain campaign’s request. Tribe examined the issue along with Theodore B. Olson, his onetime nemesis in the 2000 Supreme Court case Bush v. Gore.
Tribe said it would be “astonishing if the recordkeeping practices of Canal Zone [officials] could have any bearing on eligibility for the U.S. presidency.”
The key constitutional issue is whether the Canal Zone was part of the United States at the time of McCain’s birth. In a memorandum, Tribe and Olson cite a 1986 Supreme Court ruling stating that the United States “exercised sovereignty” over the 10-mile-wide area between 1904 and 1979, when it was handed back to the Panamanians. Hollander and others challenging McCain’s eligibility argue that the zone was never part of the United States.
Duggin, the constitutional law scholar, said the sovereignty question is “more complex” than Olson and Tribe concede. People born in some U.S. territories, such as American Samoa, are not recognized as citizens of the United States.
According to a State Department manual, U.S. military installations abroad cannot be considered “part of the United States” and “A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.” Tribe said the manual is an “opinion” with no legal status.
(snip)
Duggin believes that Hollander and the other plaintiffs are likely to have a hard time establishing their own eligibility, or legal standing, to challenge McCain. She said it will be difficult for them to demonstrate that they have been “disenfranchised” because of the mere presence on the ballot of a candidate with debatable constitutional qualifications.
But she said the matter should be sorted out before the election, rather than afterward: “Imagine what would happen if the courts were to overturn an election simply based on eligibility. It would be a disaster. After what happened in 2000, people would completely lose faith in the electoral process.”
So, by mid-2008, the question of whether John McCain met the constitutional requirement of “natural born citizen” had become the subject of multiple lawsuits and open debate, with people clamoring to see his birth certificate, which the US Senate successfully tamped down by passing a resolution pretending to settle the question in their colleague McCain’s favor.
The evil brilliance of Karl Rove was in figuring out that the best way to deal with your own candidate’s weaknesses is to accuse his opponent of those same weaknesses.
Therefore, I posit that the initial impetus to question Barack Obama’s eligibility for the Presidency was to deflect attention from John McCain’s own real problems with this very issue.
And thus a crackpot theory to delegitimize the candidacy of Barack Obama, which I believe was itself a Rovian master-stroke to turn one of McCain’s own weaknesses into a point of attack on his opponent, further stoked by deep denial among racists and conspiracy theorists that Americans actually elected the black guy as Commander in Chief, comes around to bite the Republican’s anointed plastic Ken-doll candidate in the ass just four years later.
Even as we speak, commenters in the nether reaches of the right-wing sewers of the internets are building their case against the candidacy of Mitt Romney on Constitutional grounds. Even if the combined Jesus-loving power of Perry, Bachmann and Santorum can’t bring down the Mittster, these plucky patriots are confident that they hold the key to finishing him off.
All that matters to them is that George Romney was himself born in Mexico and a dual national, and therefore, his children do not meet the Birther’s post-Obama test for natural born citizenship.
And I, for one, salute them with a sad trombone.
But Allan, I think you’re overlooking the crucial subclause: IOKIYAC — It’s Okay If You’re A Caucasian.
Actually, Mitt was born to two citizen parents, so he is a Natural Born Citizen. Obama was NOT born to two citizen parents, so he is an illegal alien!
Actually the only people in the US who AREN’T illegal are the Native Indians. You fool yourself with the myth of “them and us.” President Obama is now and always will be a legitimate and US born citizen. The fact that you can’t handle that truth is actually a personal problem. Seek counsel. The “Huxtables” are real and live in the White House.
this is too funny for words.
You’re telling me! It’s obvious that this person has done NO research whatsoever and is making a total fool of themself! Go ahead, keep researching what Natural Born Citizen and you will see how WRONG you are on the issue.
If you’d like to see how wrong they are, watch my video, whihc is sourced by the Library of Congress!
The American People WAKE UP after the Library of Congress proves Obama NOT to be a US Citizen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dbtOoX3exk
Typing a word in ALL CAPS doesn’t constitute an argument. Just thought I’d point that out.
It DOES! It TOTALLY does!!
I could care less what you think of my GRAMMER/CAPITALIZATION!
Debate me on the facts of the video!
If you can’t dispute it, that you agree with it!
Well that much is obvious.
I can understand your confusion. Kelsey Grammer is a Republican. Grammar, on the other hand, is non-partisan.
If you can’t dispute it, that you agree with it!
I want to call Poe on this quote alone.
Orly is still running around, filing cases. She’s heading back to Hawai’i in a little while trying to get access to the state’s records. She’s also been in the news in New Hampshire, as well as Georgia.
The birther movement is still alive and kicking. I suggest checking out http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/ for a nice overview of the shenanigans. Doc Conspiracy and Bad Fiction also do a great job of covering the insanity.
THat’s because the TRUTH can’t hide, it ALWAYS prevails! If what we are saying WEREN’T TRUE, then it would have fizzled out!
Dr Herb Titus, Constitutional Expert could teach you all a thing or two. Do a little research before you fo making fools of yourselves!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmkmV5scHCQ
You have no idea how ignorant you look with your wording of this “piece of trash”, because the proof is already out there, you are just WAY behind!
YOU LOSE!
Oh dear. I think the chin straps on your tin foil hat are too tight. You should loosen them and let some oxygen flow to your brain before you stroke out.
Far be it for me to suggest that professor Tribe and Duggin are missing the point, but it seems clear to me that the State Department manual they are quoting is talking about something completely different than the McCain situation. It’s merely pointing out that some random German, Filipino or Afghan child who happens to be born on a US military base does not thereby become an American citizen. That has nothing to do with the status of a child born to US citizen parents overseas whether or not they were born in a US facility or not. It is well-established that those children are US citizens.
Indeed, should it ever be held otherwise, it would be quite the gratuitous blow to all those veterans who served their country overseas on long assignments to say that THOSE people’s children were not US citizens or were not “Natural born” citizens. Is that some kind of just or desirable result? Of course, as Obama was born in the United States, it would be a moot point, in HIS case, but it would be highly insulting to McCain. You’re good enough to risk death for your country and endure torture, but because your FATHER served his country overseas and you were born there you can’t be president!?
I knew this was going to happen when MSNBC put out that story about it. LOL, talk about something coming back to bite you in the ass. Karma in action.
Bottom line is, if one of your parent’s is a U.S. Citizen or you are popped out on U.S. soil (not some territory or military base) you automatically win the U.S.Citizenship prize. Which meets the criteria in 2012 to be US President.
Unless new evidence comes forward, Mittsi-poop meets both of those criteria so this is a non, non, non issue.
Back to the drawing board…;-)
Can I see your facts to support this claim!
It’s all ridiculous, of course. In fact, Mitt Romney is the host for an alien life-form that looks like hair and intends to take over the world. Donald Trump and Sean Hannity also have alien hair-beings on their heads. IT’S A CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU
Dammit, Matt! That spoiler totally ruined the surprise ending of the sci-fi horror screenplay I’ve been writing…
I was 14 during the 1968 campaign, and I vividly remember George Romney’s citizenship being an issue. Then he handily solved the problem by inserting his foot into his mouth, a trait he seems to have handed down (“I love firing people!”) and he was out of the running.
And then we got Richard Nixon as President, squeaking in by a hair. I wonder how history would have been different under President Humphrey?
Devil’s advocate here: What makes you think the greater part of the birthers wouldn’t love to have Mitt Romney declared ineligible? The Republican Party is hardly enthusiastic about Romney to begin with; if he were ruled ineligible then all of his money, prestige, and “electability” counts for nothing, and the Republicans would be forced to nominate either one of the conservatives or Ron Paul (or have a brokered convention and draft somebody else). How exactly does that come back to bite Taitz or her supporters?
The ass that would be bitten in that scenario is the GOP establishment’s, which chuckled and winked and dog-whistled the birther smear against Obama from day one until, well, forever. “Kenyan anti-colonial mindset” anyone?
Laughs sinisterly……..
http://i43.tinypic.com/2nkhqi1.jpg
Strokes beard………
Prepares popcorn, oh yes
Oh, please, let the wheels of karma land on Mittens and the GOP
Buddy, you have no clue what you are in for!
Try researching the facts before being so snarky!
I can not wait to rub it in when BoBo is kicked to the curb!
Well I hate to burst your bubble, folks (not really), but the issue is natural born citizenship, not citizenship: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
McCain is ancient history. By the way:
1. He was born in Colon, Panama, not the Canal Zone.
2. It is probable that someone whose parents were American citizens, serving their country would get a pass on NBC, as SR511 granted.
3. SR511 declared McCain a NATURAL BORN American Citizen, because he was born of TWO American CITIZEN parents. SR511 was co-sponsored and signed by none other than the man who calls himself Barack Hussein Obama. The irony– LOLOLOL!
Obama, Romney, Santorum, Rubio, Jindal, may all share natural born Citizenship problems. by the way. You would think that in a great nation of 310 million, that we could find a few good NBC’s to run for Prez. Is that too much to ask?
Well, looky here! I’ve lured an actual birther into responding.
First: regarding Senator McCain. Are you calling this war hero, his admiral grandfather, father and mother dirty filthy liars?
“In his autobiography, “Faith of My Fathers,” McCain writes that he was born “in the Canal Zone” at the U.S. Naval Air Station in Coco Solo, which was under the command of his grandfather, John S. McCain Sr. The senator’s father, John S. McCain Jr., was an executive officer on a submarine, also based in Coco Solo. His mother, Roberta McCain, now 96, has vivid memories of lying in bed listening to raucous celebrations of her son’s birth from the nearby officers’ club.”
Second, I certainly don’t disagree that Senator McCain is a citizen of the US, but why do you believe that SR511 has any authority? It does not confer citizenship, merely affirms that McCain is a natural born citizen.
Third, the construction “the man who calls himself Barack Hussein Obama” is such an interesting turn of phrase. It’s the name on his birth certificate. Issued by the US state of Hawaii.
Fourth, despite the circumlocutions of the article that you linked, the fact remains that a natural born citizen is a person who was conferred US citizenship at birth, as opposed to one who was conferred it later in life. This is why neither Jennifer Granholm nor Arnold Schwarzenegger are eligible for the US Presidency as John McCain and Barack Obama are.
Amendments to the Constitution supercede and clarify the original document or its prior amendments. The Fourteenth Amendment clarifies citizenship. It is why Bobby Jindal is eligible to run for the Presidency, even though he was conceived outside the US, because his not-yet US citizen parents had already relocated to the US before he was BORN here, which makes him a natural-born citizen, same as Barack Obama, who was BORN a US citizen because he was BORN in the US (and his mother was, of course, a citizen).
Last, I picture you in my mind twirling your mustache while LOLing an evil laugh. Please tell me you have a mustache and that you were twirling it as you typed, because that would make my day.
What I find insulting is some crazy broad, who just became a citizen, is the one who judges whose a citizen…….
And when all the proof is laid to bear, they still wont except it, and you got douchebags in New Hampshire and other states trying to take Barack Obama off the ballots. If you cant win on ideas, use bullshit to excuse your racist recoil
So, “when ALL the truth is laid to bear” that does include looking at OUR facts and disputing them, right? Because my facts certainly are TRUTH because they are sourced by the Library of Congress!
So you look at my facts in the video below and see if you can debunk even ONE fact, I bet you can’t!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dbtOoX3exk
Great. You zany liberals are now going to help prove that Obama is not eligible to hold the office of president. Yes, this is Karma in action.
Wait til they realize “OMG, THEY WERE RIGHT”
I don’t think there will be enough rocks to hide under!
And, by the way, what makes Liberals such a nasty bunch. If they can’t be right at least they can be loud and vulgar.
Are you calling Birther hero Charles Lincoln III a liberal? Because here’s how he described his hot and heavy lovemaking sessions with the (married) Orly Taitz:
“Orly’s better in bed than 99% of the much younger girls I’ve ever met; you name it, hotter, hornier, tighter, more of a nympho than I’ve ever met in fact.”
It was in a deposition filed by another “liberal” birther Lucas Smith, so you know it must be true!
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/affidavit_in_birther_suit_contains_extraordinary_c.php
Careful, Allen, Orly’s a Black Belt. She can kick your a__, but that might turn you on too much. You won’t know it until you are standing next to her and it’s too late– she is quite tall and strong.
I have read correspondence purportedly from Lucas Smith, claiming that he did submit a birth certificate copy used as evidence and that he believes it to be genuine. But, there are also other Kenyan BC versions floating around.
Hey, “Obama” could end all that speculation just by having his toe print compared with the one on the BC. Simple, huh? If we could get a Bubba Clinton sample to compare to the one on the infamous “blue dress,” why not this, too? I think that you know the answer.
Anyway, “Obama” is ineligible, regardless of where he was born: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html .
So your response is to threaten to send a girl to assault me? Brave keyboard commando you are!
It is amusing, isn’t it, the lengths and convoluted reasonings the birfers will go to in order to not have to face reality?
I mean, really, it’d be simpler and faster to prove that up is down, day is night, and the sky is green. (Not to mention more logically sound.)
I’m just disappointed that I spent all that time and energy offering a point by point refutation of his claims, and all he could do to respond was to threaten to send his mommy to beat me up.
Then why don’t you face reality and debate me on my facts. Porve me wrong! Are you ready to debate, so I can show you who’s boss!
It’s pathetically easy to rebut your racist nonsense. Because that’s what it is, racist nonsense.
http://www.thefogbow.com/birther-claims-debunked1/
There’s a nice list right there of all the “claims” birthers make, and their debunking.
Helpful hint: You cannot get around US v Wong Kim Ark. I’ve watched birthers try, and fail miserably. Move the goalposts all you want, it still comes back to that, and the great legal principle of stare decisis.
Yo, Numbnuts, once we prove Obama is ineligible, it will then in turn prove Chester Arthur ineligible and anything with his name on it, will be VOID!
Usurper Chester Arthur appointed Horace Gray who gave the opinion in WKA and because he had something to gain (CITIZRNSHIP) by his decision, that’s another red flag!
The with Justice Gray’s about face in Elk v. Wilken’s, even HE has no clue what he believes!
Justice Gray in Elk v Wilkins opinion:
““The main object of the opening sentence of the fourteenth amendment was to settle the question, upon which there had been a difference of opinion throughout the country and in this court, as to the citizenship of free negroes, (Scott v. Sandford, 19 How. 393;) and to put it beyond doubt that all persons, white or black, and whether formerly slaves or not, born or naturalized in the United States, and owing no allegiance to any alien power, should be citizens of the United States and of the state in which they reside. Slaughter-House Cases, 16 Wall. 36, 73; Strauder v. West Virginia, 100 U.S. 303 , 306.” Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94, 101 (1884). (Emphasis added.)”
[ok love, you've had your fun. you go now. -ABL]
We are experiencing similar frustrations. We have proved “Obama” is ineligble, because he’s not a natural born citizen, that he submitted a forged birth certificate, that he used at least 16 Social Security numbers, that he forged his Selective Service Application, that he falsified his tax return and more. In return, we get only obfuscations and inapplicable, misinterpreted legal citations and Alinskyite tactics.
You can’t even prove he is “Obama,” since there is absolutely no record presented of his name ever being changed from “Barry Soetoro.” Please show me, if there is.
You assert much, you offer evidence for nothing.
So much fail, so little space.
Typing things on the Internet does not constitute proof.
Please show me where Orly Taitz has prevailed in a legal challenge, if she has.
I think she was able to get herself out of a couple of speeding tickets, but that was just reduction. When it comes lawsuits, particularly the birther suits, she’s got a perfect record. She hasn’t prevailed in one yet. Most of them are dismissed (lack of standing), and she’s even managed to piss off a judge enough to slap her with a 20K sanction. A Republican judge, appointed by G.W. Bush, in Georgia, yet.
And while you’re at it:
1) Prove you are a citizen, to this extent. Your full birth certificate, your Social Security records, your academic records, your employment records, and address records going back at least 15 years. Publish all that online.
2) Find a court willing to entertain your ludicrous blather, then an appellate court, then somehow SCOTUS. Because it’s all just racist conjecture until that happens.
3) (#2) above won’t actually happen, because you will be unable to demonstrate “standing” (go look it up) and thus unable to bring your proposed action. So go home and cry that you still can’t play with the big kids.
You don’t have proof Barack Obama ever BECAME Barry Soetoro. But you’re cute, so here’s a pat on the head and a cookie. Nini.
You’d be surprised at what we know, sweetie.
Actually, our evidence that he’s still Barry Soetoro is a lot stronger than yours that he’s now “Barack Hussein Obama II.”
Show me his legal name change papers. Show me his legal entry into the USA from Indonesia. Now you know why I usually put “Obama” in quotation marks.
A close look here would make a defense attorney nervous:
http://theobamafile.com/_eligibility/Indonesia.htm
Only if he was your defense attorney.
I’m still waiting for the actual evidence from the Birthers. And by evidence I mean copies of the paperwork. Like I’ve seen copies of Barack Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth, Certification of Live Birth
and his birth announcement from two different newspapers.
So show me copies of……………
Adoption paperwork for Barry Soetoro
Barry Soetoro’s Indonesia passport
Entry paperwork from ANY country that has records of Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen, entering their country
College records from any of the three colleges Obama attended showing Barry Soetoro, foreign student, registered
Visa from US allowing Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen, to enter this country and study here
Or any paperwork from US immigration that there was a Barry Soetoro in this country who is now claiming to be Barack Obama
I think I’ll be waiting a very long time.
But I don’t know why I’m even attempting to have a rational discussion with an irrational person. I know better. I even say I know better in my piece “Why “Birthers” Are Idiots” http://maggieameanderings.com/2011-Jun-17.htm
But your claim of “evidence” intrigued me. In the course of writing that piece I went to a lot of Birther sites. On none of them did I see actual evidence. A lot of crackpot interpretations of the law, yeah. One debunked Kenya birth certificate, yup. (See this for Obama’s Kenya birth certificate http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp Couldn’t even get the name of the country correct.) Claims of so-called experts to be able to determine if a document was authentic by looking at a computer scan, saw plenty of that.
Never did I see one piece of evidence in the form of a copy of an actual record.
Never saw a plausible explanation of why the Republican director of Hawaii’s Department of Health would have lied about seeing the original birth certificate.
Also no explanation of why if Obama was born in Hawaii as many Birthers acknowledge (they claim, among other things, that he lost his US citizenship) why on earth Obama released forgeries of his Certificate of Live Birth and Certification of Live Birth when he could have released the genuine documents.
We’ve given you evidence, you just don’t want to acknowledge it.
Your arguments are bankrupt, so you lapse into the race card and empty blather. This has everything to do with Constitutional eligibility, regardless of ethnicity. He proves our point every day, as to why undivided allegiance is so important. When I heard his 2001 radio interview dissing the Constitution, it was proof he was the wrong guy. His ineligibility only adds legal proof to that. Every day, he adds more proof. He must and will go.
As a matter of fact, we are investigating other candidates, too, but obviously the situation with the de facto incumbent is more urgent.
We already have standing for three cases to be heard this month. Even the MSM had to acknowledge that. Dozens of ballot challenges have now been filed.
You have standing? Where?
Put up or STFU.
You have nothing and when you’re yet again humiliated we’ll all be doing happy-dances and laughing at you.
Ask me again on January 27. You don’t get much undigested news in Liberal-Land, do you?
You mean the Georgia primary, when Orly, Swensson et.al. fail miserably in keeping Obama off the ballot? LOL!
That January 27th hearing didn’t go the way you Birthers were hoping, now did it?
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/judge-obama-eligible-to-1330300.html
Excerpts:
In a 10-page order, Judge Michael Malihi dismissed one challenge that contended Obama has a computer-generated Hawaiian birth certificate, a fraudulent Social Security number and invalid U.S. identification papers. He also turned back another that claimed the president is ineligible to be a candidate because his father was not a U.S. citizen at the time of Obama’s birth.
With regard to the challenge that Obama does not have legitimate birth and identification papers, Malihi said he found the evidence “unsatisfactory” and “insufficient to support plaintiffs’ allegations.”
Addressing the other claim that contends Obama cannot be a candidate because his father was never a U.S. citizen, Malihi said he was persuaded by a 2009 ruling by the Indiana Court of Appeals decision that struck down a similar challenge. In that ruling, the Indiana court found that children born within the U.S. are natural-born citizens, regardless of the citizenry of their parents.
Obama “became a citizen at birth and is a natural-born citizen,” Malihi wrote. Accordingly, Obama is eligible as a candidate for the upcoming presidential primary in March, the judge said.
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Stick that in your pipe and smoke it along with the rest of your crazy weed.
Incidentally, I’m still waiting for the “evidence.” I said I thought I’d be waiting for a very long time and your complete silence speaks volumes.
Obvious, a bunch of ignorant traitors in this comment section. You know what would make America great all of you redneck God and Guns(an oxymoron)would leave the country. By the way God does not support haters, racists liars.
It’s funny. Right after the inauguration, there was a brief effort to make the case that President Obama wasn’t African American, he was Anglo American. So is it possible that the need to believe the birther nonsense comes from the cognitive dissonance in the heads of those who refuse to comprehend the facts that their paradigm of what defines African Americans is wrong? It’s easier to believe that President Obama is NOT a real African American because if he is, then there may be more like him — intelligent, proactive, savvy, accomplished — not the lazy, brainwashed, stupid, shufflin’, baby daddy, food stamp card carrying criminal that too many on the right and some on the left have decided the African American man is. To make this birther lie into their truth relieves them from having to look at their belief sets, therefore look at themselves for who they really are.
Karl Rove had nothing to do with the crackpot ideas of the birthers, as much as it would be great if it were so. A set of pathetic lawyers, Leo Donofrio, Phil Berg and Mario Apuzzo are the dullards who came up with the idea. (Orly Taitz then stole their bizarre theories and claimed them for her own, leading to a turf war dispute with Berg that has been raging in five federal courts for the last 3 years with no signs of ending yet.)
If only one of them would read Chief Justice Melville Fuller’s dissent in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark they would see that the majority opinion in that case — which is still good law 114 years later — resolved the issue about citizen parents — they weren’t necessary.
Having failed to smear the President with that one, Orly Taitz and her clackies came up with lies about the President’s social security number and his selective service number, both of which he has and obtained legally. (Of course, after Taitz orgiastically plastered President Obama’s social security number everywhere it was changed — which caused Taitz to confabulate even more bizarre conspiracy theories.)
And then there are mental midgets like Tracy Fair who assiduously follow every blog and defecate their racism there when President Obama’s status is discussed. She is here as KenyanBornObama.
The racists are out in full force. It’s a sad day for America.