DINOs Rule, Obama droolz
Only on Fox News and the pages of the Wall Street Journal are PUMA-inciters Douglas Schoen and Patrick Caddell considered “Democrats”. Nevertheless, Fox and the WSJ trot them out from time to time to show the world that there is disharmony in the ranks of liberals and Democrats. The fact is, however, despite their resumes, these two are no more Democrats than my cat Spooky (who is pretty Libertarian, just sayin’…)
The latest effluvient from these two is an editorial in the WSJ today saying that there is no way that President Barack Obama can govern when he wins in 2012 so the president should just step aside right now and let the real leader of the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton take center stage.
I’ll pause a moment to let you stop laughing.
When Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson accepted the reality that they could not effectively govern the nation if they sought re-election to the White House, both men took the moral high ground and decided against running for a new term as president. President Obama is facing a similar reality—and he must reach the same conclusion.
He should abandon his candidacy for re-election in favor of a clear alternative, one capable not only of saving the Democratic Party, but more important, of governing effectively and in a way that preserves the most important of the president’s accomplishments. He should step aside for the one candidate who would become, by acclamation, the nominee of the Democratic Party: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Need another moment, don’t you?
Now, these two idiots aren’t saying President Obama won’t WIN reelection. In fact, they come right and say he can win it. No, it’s just that they think he won’t get anything done because he can’t run on his record and so will have to run a negative campaign. And, after that, all the goodwill he has accumulated with the Republicans will !poof! disappear. You know all that goodwill from the Republicans, right? All that good, old-fashioned bipartisanship they’ve been engaging in since 2008?
Put aside the fact that these same two non-Democrats wrote essentially the same damn editorial in 2010. In that piece of political drivel, they said President Obama should agree not to run for a second term. The only thing different now is that they have chosen an heir-apparent to take his place.
Now, let’s take a look at their argument, just for a second. And, even before that, let’s look at the writers of this comical bit of absurdity.
Douglas Schoen is partners with none other than Mark Penn, a chief strategist of Hillary Clinton’s failed run for president. Keep in mind that she was considered a shoe-in for the nomination. It was hers to lose. And, under Penn and Schoen, lose it she did. Schoen’s Wikipedia entry says he’s a Democrat that “believes that lower taxes would be a successful Democratic strategy, opposed President Obama’s Affordable Care Act, warned the Democratic Party to reject the Occupy Wall Street protest, and recommended that President Obama not run for reelection in 2012.”
Seriously. And he still gets referred to as a Democrat.
Patrick Caddell appears regularly on Fox News and other Fox programs. Pretty much everything you need to know about his veracity is summed up in this profile from the Washington Monthly:
Caddell believes the key to winning contemporary elections is appealing to ‘alienated’ voters–that ever-growing group of mostly younger voters who are not easily identified as liberal or conservative and don’t trust government, politicians, or the parties. You can’t lure these voters with programs and stands on specific issues, so the theory goes. Rather, you must remain as uncommitted as they are. You lure them by attacking that which caused their alienation: the Establishment. Even if he were inclined to help his candidate address the nation’s substantive problems and articulate a coherent package of solutions, he’d have trouble. Caddell understands polling, public opinion, and campaigning, but his knowledge of and interest in government is scant.
These are the guys suggesting President Obama should not run for reelection. Persuasive credentials, eh?
So, back to their argument. They say he cannot run on his record because the economy sucks so he’ll have to run a negative campaign and, having done that, he won’t be able to govern. In their minds, the Republicans are just bystanders in the whole drama, bystanders whose actions are entirely dictated by their opponents, it appears.
One year ago in these pages, we warned that if President Obama continued down his overly partisan road, the nation would be “guaranteed two years of political gridlock at a time when we can ill afford it.” [...]
If President Obama were to withdraw, he would put great pressure on the Republicans to come to the table and negotiate—especially if the president singularly focused in the way we have suggested on the economy, job creation, and debt and deficit reduction. [...]
Not only is Mrs. Clinton better positioned to win in 2012 than Mr. Obama, but she is better positioned to govern if she does. Given her strong public support, she has the ability to step above partisan politics, reach out to Republicans, change the dialogue, and break the gridlock in Washington.
I’m not sure what planet these two jokers have been living on since 2008 but the lack of bipartisanship is clearly not coming from the White House. In fact, even President Obama concedes that his repeated efforts at bipartisanship has earned him some criticism from some in his own party.
But the more hilarious part of this is the suggestion that Hillary Clinton would be the better able to govern because, dog gone it, Republicans like her! She’s post-partisan! She’s a dialogue-changer!
Let’s just flash back to spring/summer 2008, shall we? When the primary race came down to Obama vs. Clinton, who got nasty? Who ran the now-famous “3 A.M. Phonecall” ad suggesting that Barack Obama would be inept and disasterous on foreign policy? Who questioned Barack Obama’s credentials every step of the way and attacked the man rather than his policies?
The answer to all three questions is Hillary Clinton.
There are, frankly, few Democrats alive today more politically calculating, partisan and willing to do anything at any cost to win than Hillary and Bill Clinton. Any suggestion otherwise is a complete distortion of reality.
But, I want to remind you of one other thing. Republicans HATE Hillary Clinton. They have always hated her. From the time she was First Lady and on, they have hated her. They called her hideous names. They derided her efforts at reforming health care insurance as Hillarycare and showed it the same level of disdain and malevolence as they do President Obama’s successful effort. When Rush Limbaugh tried in vain to get Democrats to select Clinton in 2008, it was nothing more than them setting her up to be knocked down later — they saw her as the weaker candidate.
Nobody with two political brain cells to bang together would ever say that Republicans would lay down their swords and come to the negotiating table with Hillary Clinton. It’s pure comedy that anyone would take such a recommendation seriously.
Even if I didn’t like it, I understood the PUMA syndrome back in 2008. There were a LOT of people who worked very hard for a canididate they adored and, when she lost the nomination, a lot of bitterness flowed. That was almost four years ago. For anyone to be trotting out these pathetic and lame PUMA Platitudes NOW is mind boggling. I guess the only unsurprising part about it is that it took two DINOs to do it.


I shall now strike myself repeatedly about the head with a ball-peen hammer.
Sorry ;^)
You know one thing I hate more in this world (other than republicans) is fucking PUMAs. Oh and Birfers, did I mention birfers who were in large part also PUMAs, the entire birfer movement was a result of the PUMAs clinging to any damn theory that would give Hillary the nomination over Obama. Hillary has moved on, it is quite obvious that she ADORES the POTUS. Why the hell can’t her followers?
I was careful not to call these two guys PUMAs. You have to be a Democrat to be a PUMA.
I think the Republicans might hate Hillary even more than they do husband Bill.
I’ll give them one point for saying the Democrats should reject Occupy Wall Street. The GOP is trying hard to connect Occupy with the Democrats for a reason – they think the public will either annoyed or downright frightened by the Occupation and the GOP hard line against it will pay off at the polls.
I think Hillary will make good on her decision to be a one-term Secretary of State and not seek either the Presidency or Vice Presidency. Biden might well drop out though, to be replaced by Pelosi, perhaps.
what a giant steaming load of horse shit.
Senator Ben Nelson is a DINO; these guys don’t even qualify for that! They are basically Fox New puppets… of “Fuppets,” to coin a term. They are straw Democrats that Fox News can run out there, mainly because no real Democrat will get within a million miles of Fox.
Republicans HATE Hillary Clinton.
This reminder needs to be repeated again and again.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills whenever I read that Sec. Clinton would have been more effective than Pres. Obama.
Remember the “vast right-wing conspiracy” of 1998? Do they really believe that the Republicans would have cooperated with Clinton? Do they honestly believe that her arch enemies become her professional collaborators in 10 years?
Dear PUMAs: You’ve got nothing. NOTHING!
I often wonder, do these guys, GG and Hamster all gather in a lined cage coming up with bullshit, while they shit in said cage?
I wonder how many dumb asses this will fool and pull in?
To say President Obama has been partisan over the past three years means you havent been paying attention to shit
He’s been so reasonable and bi-partisan to his own detriment in some cases
Hillary herself aint doing it, she’s done, so your hopes are dead until you can sucker Liz Warren into it, and seeing how she use to be a Republican who once voted for Reagan……Shhhhhh, they dont know, dont burst their bubble of a pure progressive princess coming to save the day
“Pretend” Democrats? I don’t know about that. Maybe more like “old-timey” Democrats. You know — George Wallace Democrats.
Whatever else Obama does, I’ll always admire him for defeating Hillary in 2008 and preventing a second Clintoon presidency.
LMBAO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
DINO is a good term since they’re stuck 60 million years in the past, but the relics of my Christian upbringing cause me to favor the term “Judas Democrat.”
Hey now, you’re all forgetting how effective Hillary was in the 90s at working across the aisle to achieve universal healthcare reform. And at convincing her own husband not to toss poor kids off Medicaid as part of “welfare reform.” And in keeping Bill from signing DADT and DOMA and NAFTA! And the way she stood up to Bush on AUMF, NCLB, the Patriot Act? /snark/
And seriously: she would be the candidate “by acclamation?” This is the same old PUMA shit. “Hillary can WIN, dammit — as long as everybody else just steps aside and gives her what is rightfully hers” because, because … damned if I know. But the fact that she couldn’t beat Obama when she was the frontrunner/presumptive nominee with all the fundraising/PR/organizing mojo of a two-term former Dem president behind her doesn’t exactly speak to her strategic acumen. I think she’s done a good job as SoS despite my initial qualms, but c’mon — she has no real legislative achievements from either her husband’s administration or her own time in the Senate that supports the notion that she could overcome the ingrained lunacy of the GOP. To be fair — NO ONE CAN! Which is why it’s about securing solid majorities in the Senate and the House, kids.
Look, Douglas Schoen and Patrick Caddell are old Clintonistas. They want Obama to fail because a successful Obama means Clinton will no longer the Be All and End All of Democratic politics. As others have pointed out, these are 90′s blowhards who are pissed that the young, unknown Black guy came on the scene, kicked their asses and is fixing their mess from 8+ years of capitulation and selling out.
Remember the scene in head of state where the former Democratic Front Runner decides to help the GOP candidate because it was obvious Chris Rock was going to win. That’s what’s going on here.